Hillary Clinton Started the Birther Movement, Not Donald Trump

Hillary Clinton Started the Birther Movement, Not Donald Trump
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In decrying Donald Trump’s racism, many black people are quick to point out Trump’s conspiratorial birther movement as evidence. The only problem is that Hillary Clinton–not Donald Trump–started the birther movement, even though some black pundits are desperately trying to rewrite history.

As evidence, heere’s an exchange between MSNBC’s Joy Reid and Trump supporter and pastor Darrell Scott:

But he went a step too far when he denied Trump had anything to do with encouraging the birther movement over President Barack Obama’s citizenship.

 

“Don’t tell me you agree with the birtherism, sir,” Reid said as she cut him off. “Don’t tell me you agree with that.”

 

“The birtherism issue came out of Hillary Clinton’s campaign in 2008,” Scott replied.

 

“No it didn’t,” Reid shot back, with Scott replying, “Yes it did.”

 

“That’s wrong,” Reid said as she stopped him once again.

 

“Even a pastor cannot make things up on this show,” she cautioned.

Notice that Reid offered no evidence for why she believed Scott was wrong, as though shouting Scott down and attempting to shame him was enough. But there is ample reason to believe that birtherism originated with the Clinton campaign.

 

As The Atlantic noted, Clinton consultant Mark Penn floated the idea of challenging Obama’s roots in a memo:

More than anything else, this memo captures the full essence of Mark Penn’s campaign strategy–its brilliance and its breathtaking attacks. Penn identified with impressive specificity the very coalition of women and blue-collar workers that Clinton ended up winning a year later. But he also called Obama “unelectable except perhaps against Attila the Hun,” and wrote, “I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values.” Penn proposed targeting Obama’s “lack of American roots.”

And there’s more:

In February 2008, the Drudge Report posted a picture of Obama in traditional Kenyan/Somali clothes (including a turban, which helped reinforce the “secret Muslim” smear). Drudge said the picture was circulated by the Clinton campaign. David Plouffe, Obama’s campaign manager called it “the most shameful, offensive fear-mongering we’ve seen from either party in this election.”Initially, the Clinton campaign did not deny having sent the photo, instead playing dumb about the possible impact of the photo and attacking Obama over it: “If Barack Obama’s campaign wants to suggest that a photo of him wearing traditional Somali clothing is divisive, they should be ashamed. Hillary Clinton has worn the traditional clothing of countries she has visited and had those photos published widely.”

 

Stephanie Tubbs Jones, a member of Congress and Clinton surrogate, when asked about the circulation of the photo, implied that Barack Obama is native to Kenya: “I have no shame, or no problem, with people looking at Barack Obama in his native clothing, the clothing of his country … if we’re supporting a woman or an African American for president, we ought to be able to support their ability to wearthe clothing of their nation.”

 Hillary Clinton supporters have attempted to defend her by saying that she wasn’t a birther in the same way as Trump, since she never demanded to see Obama’s birth certificate, but Clinton opened the door that Trump eventually walked through. She’s bears much of the responsibility here.

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Charles E Nelson Jr
Charles E Nelson Jr

POLITICAL PROPAGANDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS BS.

Kevin Spruill
Kevin Spruill

Not even close to being factually correct geez. "Started"? Nope. Tried to use? Yep

Shawn M White
Shawn M White

How soon they forget while singing her praises, great post Victor Amo-Krah.

Victor Amo-Krah
Victor Amo-Krah

Shawn M White SHE OPENED THE DOOR FOR THE BIRTHER MOVEMENT! Yes Shawn, it was a great post. I wonder if voter turn out in November will be very low?

John Westbrook
John Westbrook

All is fair in love and war.He's forgiven her so what's your point ???

Tedi Morris
Tedi Morris

Donald Trump has been the one to perpetuate the Birther Movement. His followers question President Obama's birth place to this day. Do you really think President Obama ever thought of Hillary as the founder of the Birthers? Please, think about it.

Linda Armstrong
Linda Armstrong

Not true..it was diapermoney who would not shut his mouth ove n over even when evidence was presented.......yellowhaired yellowbelly rapist

Leanord Moore
Leanord Moore

Donald Trump traveled the country with his birther garbage, he got the idea from a right wing radio host.

Paul O'Neal
Paul O'Neal

To mention it in anger as opposed to going overboard with it are two very different things.

Lamont Lewis
Lamont Lewis

I will take every criticism on this post. This is true. All seems forgiven.

Mark Murray
Mark Murray

Who gives a f**k....Trump cannot become President.

Christopher Moss
Christopher Moss

It's really not an issue on her part. She was just mad because he was beating her. She let it go after that. She picked it up from birthers. Yes, Trump is a real birther and was before Hillary jumped on the bandwagon to try to gain ground on Obama during the election. I'm a Bernie supporter. Your efforts to get Black people to vote for Trump are in vain. Breaking Brown, we know you are a white supremacist organization in disguise.

anthony4422
anthony4422

Irrelevant who started the issue and does not change the fact that neither Trump no Clinton is worth anything.  This whole charade makes me think of the verse from KRS-1's song "Ah yeah"............ Remember the whip, remember the chant, remember about rope and... You Black people still thinking about Vote-in,,,

Every president we ever had lied, you know I'm kinda glad Nixon died.... Ah yeah

Erinn Watkins
Erinn Watkins

Mark Penn - chief strategist and pollster to Hillary Clinton in her unsuccessful campaign for the democratic nomination for the 2008 Penn Strategy Memo, March 19, 2007: More than anything else, this memo captures the full essence of Mark Penn's campaign strategy--its brilliance and its breathtaking attacks. Penn identified with impressive specificity the very coalition of women and blue-collar workers that Clinton ended up winning a year later. But he also called Obama "unelectable except perhaps against Attila the Hun," and wrote, "I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values." Penn proposed targeting Obama's "lack of American roots." http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/08/penn-strategy-memo-march-19-2008/37952/

Rick Manigault
Rick Manigault

Joy Anne Reid hates facts. In her world MSDNC lies are unquestionable. 

Gusella Mariam
Gusella Mariam

I can not believe we got black folk out here 'peddling' Donald Trump. They are just like Donald Trump. They think Black folk are dumb enough to believe anything.

Gusella Mariam
Gusella Mariam

I voted for Obama; but I did not vote for Obama because he is Black. The same goes for Hillary. I am not voting for Hillary Clinton because she is a woman. I am voting for Hillary Clinton because she is the most qualified thing out there running and she is the best for the nation in this election cycle. HILLARY 2016

Gusella Mariam
Gusella Mariam

BS. Hillary Clinton did not start the 'birther movement'. This is just more racist rhetoric from a 'handful of certain blacks' who do not want other blacks to vote for Hillary. They do this to try to tarnish Hillary to keep Blacks from voting for Hillary. Blacks know BS whether it is coming from Donald Trump or whether it is coming from other Blacks. Hillary solidly has my vote.

Willie Daniels
Willie Daniels

Just say that BreakingBrown, Endorse Donald Trump and be over with it.

Christopher Moss
Christopher Moss

It's a white supremacist organization. Breaking Brown is like United Citizens and other terms used as mask to deter people from knowing who they really are.

Donald R Brown
Donald R Brown

Be careful people Breaking Brown is trying to sell you on Trump. Don't fall for it.

Jeff Bunn
Jeff Bunn

Are we turning a "blind eye" to this being racist code for "he can't be our president because he's black, aka not American." Beyond all of this is the reality that the us government called American Apartheid has become so flagrant due to it's few remaining years of life; ala "The Donald" vs The Gvt/Corp. Gate Keeper both doing their best evil to keep the system afloat.

Ann Peterson
Ann Peterson

Your argument was well stated and true. Trump do not want to be president and will not be president. He is running on his own agenda which has nothing to do with the Republican party. Most people with the exception of his supporters are aware of this. Clinton has her lies and trustworthy issues which is true. However her accomplishments and the millions of people she and her foundations have helped far out weight her flaws. Donald Trump has never helped anyone but Donald Trump and that is why he is running for president to help Donald Trump. As soon as we complete the facts we are going to put it out there. At the end of the day it's not about parties. It is about who is realistically qualified to be president.

Marceau Adams
Marceau Adams

Waddell & Armoni Has this information influenced you to vote for Trump?

Heather Bangert
Heather Bangert

I assume you mean Margaret Sanger......Margaret Thatcher and Clinton have nothing in common

Ann Peterson
Ann Peterson

You know White people are making the same issue about Black people. Look that up. If you have a problem finding it. More than happy to send it to you.

Christopher Moss
Christopher Moss

Armani Q Fields, eugenics has been used for years. Even ancient Romans had a version of Eugenics. It had nothing to do with genocide. It had everything to do with improving white stock. They wanted to eliminate births from people who had physical defects. They thought the gene could be passed on from person to person. Genocide is physically going out and killing people. Margaret Sanger was not about that. On the other hand, Trump is a white nationalist and white supremacist.

Christopher Moss
Christopher Moss

Ann Peterson , white genocide is the term he should look up. The crazy folks believe that is happening too. We will vote for Hillary this election. Tell Trump to comeback in 8 years and we will see if he stopped being racist.

Armoni Q Fields
Armoni Q Fields

You are misinformed about Margeret Sanger...My research is done & documented...I was raised by Oakland Black Panthers.. This was School for us...I am not new to this...

Johnw11
Johnw11

Excellent Observation. I commented on this fact last night and am pleasantly surprised to see it as a primary topic of discussion today. The facts are, not only did the Clintons start the "Birther" nonsense, but they kept it going. After starting the false rumor, when ever asked about it they would be noncommittal: "Is he an American?"... "I don't know, he says he is." "Is he a terrorist?".. "I don't know, he's probably not."

Now contrast those responses to the warmonger John McCain's in the fall of 2008. In Ohio, an elderly white woman approached McCain with the nervous question: "They [the Clintons] say he [Obama] is a terrorist. Is he a terrorist?"

To his credit, McCain's response was definitive: "No, Mam! He is NOT a terrorist!" McCain said, appearing both frustrated and embarrassed by the woman's foolishness.

Those are facts.


rod k
rod k

ALSO IT WAS A DEMOCRAT WHO CALLED OBAMA BOY. REMEMBER HARRY REID HAD TO APOLOGIZE ON THE SENATE FLOOR. SUCH HYPOCRISY. JOHN I'VE SAID IT BEFORE AND WILL STATES IT AGAIN. THE POWERS THAT BE ARE TRYING TO GIVE CLINTON A MANDATE. 13% AHEAD IN THE POLLS AT THIS JUNCTURE TRANSLATE INTO TO MAN DATE . YOU WILL BE HEARING THAT FROM THE MEDIA SOON. THEY ARE MESSING WITH THE RUSSIANS OVER THE PARA OLYMPICS AND CRIMEA. THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX WANT ANOTHER COLD WAR, AND CLINTON IS DUMB ENOUGH TO START ONE. EVERY ONE KNOWS SHE IS A ONE TERM PRESIDENT AND BOTH PARTIES CAN'T KEEP UP THE CHARADE much longer. THAT'S WHY THIS ELECTION CYCLE IS SO IMPORTANT TO THEM AND WHY BLACK POLITICIANS ARE SO determined to get as much money and deals for life after Washington. Keep an eye on how many retire during the Clinton years. The midterms are going to like a fire sale with so many incumbents retiring.

docbhub
docbhub

And let's not forget Joe "They're gonna put y'all back in chains" Biden who said that Obama was the first "clean cut" African-American to run for president. Let's not forget what he did to Anita Hill during the Clarence Thomas hearings. I wish the Republican Party had a modern day Fanny Lou Hammer who righted the racist Democratic Party ship. We are better off having the two major parties competing for our split vote. Either we help prop up third parties such as the Greens and Libertarians or hope that they unite to challenge the two party duopoly in the future.

rod k
rod k

Dude they are more corrupt under Obama than in the past. Talking about in your face corruption, after the American backed coup in the Ukraine and all those right wing neo groups took over, who became Ukraine s energy minister. None other than joe Biden son. This was done in the open not in secret. Obama approved of this , he sent his ambassador to Ukraine to facilitate the coup and to give out cookies to the neo nazis

Who took over that country. Just as it was Obama's administration that allowed the coup in Egypt. It's business as usual in Washington and the mood of the country is greed. Your idea of being a voting block for each party will not solve the problem. Our votes would still be taken for granted. We have an opportunity to take over the greens with just our volume. The greens would be a overnight nightmare for both parties. The fear for them would be how many other minorities would follow us. Contrary to popular opinion, the greens are very organized and are a international political movement. If we blacks threw in with the greens it would have international reverberation. At that point we could not only start to make America better but the whole world would be a better place

Wadell Timothy
Wadell Timothy

Right on point Yvette... "...Clinton opened the door that Trump eventually walked through."

Ann Peterson
Ann Peterson

Not true. I wasn't born yesterday. I remember when this happen as clearly as yesterday. She did not start this and she did not send private investigator to Hawaii to hunt down his birthday certificate. She did not start a movement trying to convince people that he was not a natural born citizen. If you ask President Obama I'm sure he will tell you who started it. Think. Do you really think President Obama would have made her secretary of state if she did that? This reeks of Flipper(Trump).

Christopher Moss
Christopher Moss

Roger Sankofa Albert , this is a white supremacist page. They are trying to infiltrate the Black community. Spread the word.

BreakingBrown
BreakingBrown

Obama accused Clinton of fear mongering back then, so if you ask the 2008 Obama, he'd agree. The 2016 Obama is a different man altogether--yc

Donald R Brown
Donald R Brown

Breaking Brown is becoming very pro Trump be careful people.

Cheryl Carter-Ellis
Cheryl Carter-Ellis

You're right Breaking Brown. 08 Obama said that she would do or say anything to get elected and that her judgment was suspect. The Clinton machine went after Obama in 08 even searching his kindergarten records. They floated this, questions around his religion and released the Rev. Wright tapes. Calling folks out on their ish does not mean that we support Trump.

Gusella Mariam
Gusella Mariam

Some black folk are like Donald Trump. They think black folk are dumb enough to believe anything.

Wayne Eric Bazz Saffold
Wayne Eric Bazz Saffold

Both Hilary and Donald are detrimental to the African community. Gary Johnson or Jill Stein is who we should give our votes too.

Al Jones
Al Jones

U- help yourself 2 Gary Johnson and Jill Stein

Sondre Dimanche
Sondre Dimanche

Gary Johnson doesn't make sense if you've been following Breaking Brown's articles on the myth of Black wealth. He'd just open the door for more unregulated corporate control and leave poor Black communities in the same worsening conditions they're already in. Libertarians think evening the playing field is just unwriting rules and, y'know, not incarcerating us, which isn't real work (and probably why Johnson's trademark issue is weed decriminalization.) Sanders and Stein were/are the only ones visiting us for more than a photo op and asking us what we policies we need implemented to actually grow. Obama doesn't even do that and he's supposed to be one of us.

Daniel Parker
Daniel Parker

Question the hypocrisy of the Democrats and lay bare the ways in which they mirror the Republicans and Hillbots label you "pro Trump". Like lemmings off a cliff, talk about jumping to conclusions.

Christopher Moss
Christopher Moss

Wayne Eric Bazz Saffold , that's a lie. There are 894 hate groups in America. More than 800 are white supremacist and white nationalist. Trump is with them. This is why he kept tweeting them. They want to undo civil rights. Clinton wants civil rights but also wants Wall Street support. Clinton is a much better choice.

Kevin Lac
Kevin Lac

Bottom line either you support Trump or Clinton at this point