Angela Rye Denies Existence of Black Poverty Because She and Her Bougie Friends Are “Doing Well”

Angela Rye Denies Existence of Black Poverty Because She and Her Bougie Friends Are “Doing Well”
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by Yvette Carnell

A recent study found that the average black family would need 228 years to build the wealth of a white family today. The study made the rounds and was published at a number of outlets, still CNN eye-rolling extraordinaire Angela Rye doesn’t believe black poverty is a problem because she and her friends are doing well.

Rye  said the following on CNN while discussing Trump’s comments on poverty in the black community:

John (Berman), it’s not about us all having to be lifted out of poverty. I’m not impoverished, and I have several middle class friends who are doing well in this country. And so I reject the notion that we constantly need to be talking about-…

Rye went on to say that blacks are not monolithic, not understanding that economics is one of the few areas where we actually are monolithic:

What situation, though? So that’s part of the problem. So the fact that African-Americans are talked about as monolithic entities as, you know, we all need to pull ourselves up by our boot straps when we were barefoot on plantations building this country for free is highly problematic to me.

 

To the contrary, wealth accumulation is actually flat in the black community. I’ve no idea why the African-American community rails against white supremacy while giving black functionaries of the white elite like Rye a pass. Here’s more from the study mentioned above about black wealth:

Those are the key findings of a new study of the racial wealth-gap released this week by the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS) and the Corporation For Economic Development (CFED). They looked at trends in household wealth from 1983 to 2013—a 30-year period that captured the rise of Reaganomics, expanded international trade and two major financial crashes fueled by bubbles in the tech sector and housing prices. The authors found that the average wealth of white households increased by 84 percent during those three decades, three times the gains African-American families saw and 1.2 times the rate of growth for Latino families.

And from a Huffington Post article titled “Black Wealth Barely Exists in One Terrible Chart”:

Upward mobility from the bottom of the income distribution is much less likely for black than white Americans: 51% of the black Americans born into the lowest fifth of the earnings distribution remain there at age 40.

Not only are we not excelling, we’re actually falling behind, according to the data. And not only do we not have money, we don’t have land either:

The five largest white landowners in America together own more rural land than all of black America combined. According to CNBC, this small group’s total land holdings are about 9 million acres.

In the report “Who Owns the Land,” the United States Department of Agriculture disclosed all of Black America only owns just under 8 million acres. In fact, it was further explained that African Americans own less than one percent of U.S. rural land, worth a mere 14 billion dollars.

A group of people who are descended from slaves, downwardly mobile, have no wealth, land or inheritance are monolithic in that they are poor, regardless of whether Rye drinks mimosas with her middle class friends on Sunday afternoon.

It’s ignorant of Rye to use her friends as barometers for Black America anyway. That’s what data is for, and yet she’s on CNN neck rolling and eye popping in defense of a worldview that does nothing to advance the condition of the majority of African-Americans in this country.

What would’ve been the reaction had a white person on CNN said, in reaction to Trump’s comments, “Well, I have middle class black friends who are doing fine.” Black twitter would’ve roasted that person. And Rye shouldn’t get a pass either just because she’s black.

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Rick Manigault
Rick Manigault

Angela Rye is a real piece of work. Her job is to talk about racism without ever addressing actual policies that harm black people. Rye's CBC background means she spent most of her political career fighting for wall street and endless wars. Now she's all about misdirecting every discussion towards civil right and race hate, Making sure poverty and lack of opportunity are never addressed. 


http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/congressional-black-caucus-still-trying-to-hurt-their-constituents-by-killing-the-labor-department-fiduciary-rule.html


http://thyblackman.com/2016/02/13/the-congressional-black-caucus-sellout-hillary-clinton-still-wins/

Oscar Gray
Oscar Gray

I feel her,a general contractor that I contract from asked me a question of whether I did better business under bush and I said no and he wanted me to say yes,I laughed lmao,since God put Obama in office things are better for me and its not president Obama or anybody else its all God

Beatrice Morgan
Beatrice Morgan

Agreed with her I watched her every time she is on CNN, this is not what she was saying.

Robert Mcneill
Robert Mcneill

I actually was watching this episode, she said no such thing. She stated she's never experienced poverty! Don't try to turn us against our own...Especially when they're actually on our side and give us a voice when we can't have one.

J Ted Williams
J Ted Williams

dammit -- she's right--since the end of the civil war--well maybe a couple of hundred years earlier!!

Bernard Jones
Bernard Jones

TWO BIRDS DISPUTED OVER A KERNEL AND A THIRD ONE SWOOPED DOWN AND CARRIED IT OFF. ( AFRIKAN PROVERB)

Sammie E Moore Sr.
Sammie E Moore Sr.

Not all black people are doing dirt ball bad, most black people are more conservative that they've given credit for. We also don't live every waking moment worried about walking out of our homes and being shot like TRUMP would have people believe. Most black people work hard every day and are not on food stamps, welfare or section 8. I grew up in the hood and didn't live in poverty. My kids grew up in the hood and didn't live in poverty. Neither I or my sons have kids out of wedlock, we never robbed stole or sold drugs either. I do personally know thieves, robbers, killers and drug dealers. I don't bother them and they don't bother me.

Tiana Gasaway
Tiana Gasaway

That's not what she was saying. We are all well aware that in all ethnic groups you will have those who are less fortunate. She was using herself and her associates as an example that not all black people are impoverished. This is relating back to Trumps generalization of blacks existence in America. They knew what she meant. Just an attempt to paint her negatively. Well, they failed. Keep giving them hell Angela. That's why they are coming for you.

Jackson Jackie
Jackson Jackie

Lies! I love her and they need to stop trying to defame her character.

Eric Parson Sr.
Eric Parson Sr.

I understand what she was attempting to get across, it just didn't come out correctly.....her and Yvette should have a sit down and let them discuss their viewpoints because they both seem to want what's best for black people....

Ray Herring
Ray Herring

This is complete BS!!! She never denied black poverty. She is actually one of the more pro-black pundits ive seen who make the rounds on these national news channels...

Rod Mason
Rod Mason

Meanwhile DYLAN ROOF has amassed over 4 million in donations. .

Timothy Self
Timothy Self

Angela Rye goes hard at Trump's lying surrogates and she's constantly speaking out on why a lot of minority's live low income lives and she did it again last night on Anderson Cooper when she said the conditions that many minority's in poverty or low income status is """systemic racism """ that had been ongoing since the end of the civil war!!!!

Charles E Nelson Jr
Charles E Nelson Jr

SHE IS AN OPPORTUNIST.............TRYING TO MAKE NAME AND FURTHER NOTORIETY FOR HERSELF AS THE EXPENSE OF IMPOVERISHED PEOPLE........!!!!!!!!!!!! ANGELA RYE YOU DISSS-GUST ME AND YOUR BLACK ANCESTORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Timothy Self
Timothy Self

Don't all pundits and political tv contributors try and make names for themselves??!! are they all not opportunist in their own right??!! and if your disgusted by her why respond??!!\U0001f602\U0001f602\U0001f602\U0001f602

Tivolieclipse
Tivolieclipse

There should be no systemic racism in Democratic strongholds

There should be no mass incarceration in Democratic strongholds

There should be no mass unemployment in Democratic strongholds

There should be no gentrification in Democratic strongholds

There should be no homelessness in Democratic strongholds

There should be no Police Brutality in Democratic strongholds

What’s up Democrats?  Do you think I am going to vote for more of that?

Fidel Cooper
Fidel Cooper

Racist pigs always like to twist black person words smfh.

Danielle Tate
Danielle Tate

The title is misleading and not remotely close to what she was addressing. Since I disagree proving we are not monolithic.

Laloni Missy
Laloni Missy

Just because youve never lived in poverty doesnt mean you downplay it. Or the fact it is real

Romeo Monsantos
Romeo Monsantos

If she does not believe in group economics, then she is lost cause

Kenneth Roberson
Kenneth Roberson

poverty was being in the game twice as Tyra banks father and rob evans father selling drugs while in the league for child support

Cory Booker
Cory Booker

Stop trying to go for the sensational story

Stan Blockson
Stan Blockson

They are just mad because she gets in those lieing fork tongued blonde Nazi bimbos ass's on the right.

D Deon Williams
D Deon Williams

I am surprised at Ms. Rye, she's usually on point....is this a spoof?

Johnw11
Johnw11

@Watchful  Great post. "Four Maximum Confusing Elements." Great analysis. Absolutely brilliant.

It is also important that we keep in mind that all Black semi-elites don't feel, or publicly behave, like Rye, Reed, et al. and, therefore, there is a "personality" and "character" factor involved in one's choosing to play such roles that must be taken into account. For example, you don't see Danny Glover, Colin Kaeprnick, et al. behaving like that. That's why I say these type people are more of  a 'cadre' than a 'class.' The fact is most of these people, while happily selling themselves as "racial showcases," instruments of propaganda, have deep untreated personal wounds usually grounded in traumatic past experiences. Whenever one of them, like Charles Blow, writes about his / her life history, a traumatic, unresolved experience usually is the first thing talked about. That is from where their egocentricity (selfishness) comes. Their not caring about less fortunate people is reinforced by a need to outrun and drown personal pain by compensating for it with an inflated sense of personal success. Note that Glover, Kaepernick, for example, have larger per diem accounts than Rye and Reed, et al. have in total assets. But they don't behave like that -- all ignorant and low class by denying the interests of millions of poor Blacks: hundreds of thousands of them homeless, and millions more near-homelessness.

Perhaps if more of these people were encouraged to seek professional counseling, there would be fewer broken hearts and minds available to be used as agents of "racial showcasing."

Watchful
Watchful

@Johnw11 


To be perfectly honest, John ... I couldn't care less about ppl like Rye, Blow, and their ilk. I would prefer that more of our ppl spent their time reading the works of ppl like Mr.Fuller so we will be much less likely to be duped by the Ms.Ryes of the world.

Johnw11
Johnw11

@Watchful I agree, but an important part of explaining "racial showcasing" is providing specific examples of it, while it's right in front of people's eyes. Given Mr. Fuller's analysis, all Blacks presented as success stories are used as "racial showcasing." While that is certainly true, it is also true that all of these Blacks don't go over-board selling themselves as such. Some speak out against injustice. That is when their white supremacist assigned role becomes in conflict with their personal values, and their personal values become in conflict with white supremacy.

So, one cannot just dismiss the individualized behavior of some, by assigning it to a general category that dismisses the fact that some chose to be successful when given the opportunity, while still maintaining their dignity and sense of belonging to one's heritage group and what is right. By doing so, they are striking a direct blow to the legitimacy of the foundational objective of "racial showcasing"; while others choose to display the most profound ignorance and self-vanity regarding the same matter.

The two types are not the same .

Watchful
Watchful

@Johnw11 


I suppose that's one of way of looking at it, John ... but for me, I guess I just don't see them or their opinions as being relevant or worthwhile.

Johnw11
Johnw11

@Watchful I agree that they are not worthwhile. Except they're in propaganda roles that influence millions --well not millions, because their ratings are not that high -- but thousands of people.

We've had some of their clueless victims come here trolling, telling lies, and claiming that Blacks are wealthy because they have a median household wealth of $5,000. In addition to the fact that we know such trolls are not used to handling money if they think $5,000 is a lot of money (LOL), more than a third of Black families have "0" wealth.

So when the trolls misbehave by going beyond their assigned "showcase" roles and saying ignorant things -- that are likely, by the way, outside of their "showcase" job descriptions -- they should be socially reprimanded by the people they're hired to impress and increase ratings on in the first place: African Americans.

These behaviors are symptomatic of psychologically unresolved issues rooted in childhood trauma. They go beyond mere "showcase" behavior. Showcase means just being someplace for "show," but Rye, Reed et al. are actively advocating AGAINST discussions that could lead to policies that ease the suffering of the Black poor. In that sense, they are more than "showcasing," they are "cooning."

Watchful
Watchful

@Johnw11


It seems to me, John ... that it's incumbent upon those of us who r aware of what these ppl r up to to encourage those who aren't aware to simply stop watching these TV shows AND channels that continue to feature or 'showcase' them. From what I've been able to observe, some of us complain about these ppl yet continue to watch them. It's almost like a case of cognitive dissonance if u ask me. Y continue watchin' them when u already know what they're likely to say or do? Seems to me, time would be much better spent listening and studying ppl like Mr.Fuller et al. who have something truly worthwhile to share with our ppl.

Johnw11
Johnw11

@Watchful  I agree. I rarely to never watch that crap. But many people still do. So I see no harm in helping them to know what they are wasting time watching.

I agree that people should stop watching, but they have to be educated to do so, and that's what discussions like this do. I don't see a problem with it.

Watchful
Watchful

@Johnw11 


I'm just tryna figure out y ppl r 'still' watchin' them or that channel, John. It's not like they just started their nonsense, they've been pushing the demoncratic agenda on MSNBC, for at least, since Obama took office, if not longer. I mean, just how long does it take for peeps to see thru their BS? If 8 years ain't long enough, then I'm afraid I have to question the critical thinking ability and awareness of the members of their viewing audience. Unless, of course, they're watchin' just to be 'entertained'.

Johnw11
Johnw11

@Watchful Since you know what the problem is, you know the solution is to solve the cause of the problem.

If the problem (watching nonsense) is rooted in not knowing any better, then the solution is to inform people. Since everyone doesn't learn or come to understand things at the same rate, it is best to accept that change is a process rather than an event.

Keep up the good work. That's about as far as I can go discussing this one. 

Watchful
Watchful

@Johnw11 


But that's just it, John ... I HAVE been questioning peeps as to y they watch that foolishness for some time now and they STILL seem to be caught up in it. Oh well, so be it ... I've got more worthwhile things to focus on.

Marcus Jones
Marcus Jones

This article is bull. Everyone know some poor people, everyone know some well off.

Terry Solomon
Terry Solomon

Was listening to cnn when she said this bs. This morning she was really snobby to an elderly pastor who called himself the apostle.

Adam Abramowitz
Adam Abramowitz

The world according to the narcissist. Everything that happens in the world should be compared to MY EXPERIENCES. I'm not poor, therefore poverty doesn't exist. I've never been raped, therefore, rape isn't a big deal. I quit shooting heroin, why are there addicts? I found Jesus. We need more Jesus...

Ronald Towns
Ronald Towns

Breaking brown is breaking down black people I know is doing well you have at of broke ass white people

Johnw11
Johnw11

Thank you, Ms. Carnell, for your consistent truth telling by way of discrediting shameless, ignorant, media and other troll types. And you have the skills to do it, which is why you do it so well.  Again, thank you.

While the fact that African Americans' socio-economic condition is "dire," in fact, "existential," is well documented by all credible sources and expert researchers (governmental and nongovernmental), propagandists like Rye are attempting to run a delusional narrative to deny that reality. Thus, the objective is to render Blacks psychologically out-of-touch with their own reality, in order to keep them pinned down on the Dem plantation. If they are successful in doing so, it's game over, because that outcome  will not only delegitimize Blacks' meritorious  grievances, but also drive them "stone crazy" at the same time. 

What people like Rye, Joy Reed, Sharpton (who I'm told claims Black unemployment is only 8%) , et al. are really saying when they make such ignorant comments is they don't care about the Black masses. Their comments are CLEAR evidence of that fact, such as  "I'm not impoverished"; interpretation = "I'm not part of them, don't group me with them." That interpretation is also evidenced by "rationalizing" statements like "Blacks are not monolithic, my friends are doing well," etc.

Given this reality, why do Blacks allow people to lead them with misinformation who openly declare that they are not part of the regular Black community, and are embarrassed by the masses of other Blacks?  What usefulness to Blacks is the information these people provide, given not only it's inaccuracy, but it's intent? The intent is to fraudulently keep Blacks in their current (and it's going to get worse) condition for personal gain. 

Anytime a presidential candidate mentions the vast majority of Black's economic plight, whether its Sanders or Trump, these people deny that plight. Why is that? What do people like Rye have to lose if a presidential candidate addresses Blacks' economic needs in a forum where such an issue belongs -- presidential politics?

Why are they so upset, since by their own admission, the subject is not about them?

The answer can only lie in one place: they are tools -- mouthpieces-- of the status quo; being used to help play Blacks for votes only, while being -- even outright bragging about it --- unconcerned about Blacks' needs. For this, they are rewarded well. So much for talk about needing a "Black face in the news room," or anywhere else for that matter.

Dedric Jackson
Dedric Jackson

Yal really need to listen to the entire segment. She answered a direct question relating to whether she grew up in poverty. She didn't denounce it at all

Heyward Johnson
Heyward Johnson

This is a lie, Miss Rye NEVER denied Black poverty . Yvette needs to stop her bullchit and lies.