Obamacare Is Helping Everyone Except Black People

Obamacare Is Helping Everyone Except Black People
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A new report by the Commonwealth Fund on Obamacare shows that the law has reduced the number of uninsured within every demographic except blacks.

As Bloomberg View points out, “the share of Americans age 19 to 64 without health insurance fell from 20 percent last summer to 15 percent this spring.” Overall, the number of adults without insurance has fallen by 9.5 million and has included every race except blacks.

According to Bloomberg, here’s the breakdown among all demographics, excluding blacks:

The uninsurance rate for whites fell to 12 percent from 16 percent; for Latinos, it plummeted, to 23 percent from 36 percent. For respondents who reported their race as “mixed” or “other,” the share without insurance was cut almost in half, to 11 percent from 20 percent.

Among blacks, however, the level of uninsured is unchanged:

The exception to that trend was blacks. When the Commonwealth Fund conducted a survey from July to September last year, 21 percent of blacks reported being uninsured. This year, in a similar survey conducted from April to June, that level was effectively unchanged, at 20 percent. Blacks were about half as likely as Latinos to be uninsured a year ago; now the rates for the two groups are almost the same.

Much of this may stem from the fact that blacks disproportionately, 62 percent, live in states that are refusing to accept Medicaid expansion. Only 39 percent of Latinos live in states that have refused expansion.

Still, there are other theories available as well, such as blacks being less likely to sign up for exchanges than other groups, but given the amount of outreach that the Obama administration did with black civic and church organizations, is that even a possibility? Thoughts?

 

 

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dcb514
dcb514

African Americans have no money to pay for it.  We are the highest unemployment statistic although it does not show that.  Once unemployment benefits exhaust, the recipient falls off the statistic.  Congress refused to extend this benefit knowing that without income people (African Americans) could not buy healthcare.  Obamacare hasn't failed us, our elected officials have failed us.

blackheywood97
blackheywood97

 Any POTUS that has a segment of the American adult population unemployed in double digits his entire Presidency is a failed President. This is the first time since Pre-Civil Rights that American Black citizens have been as disenfranchised and economically depressed.

turkey1
turkey1

One thing that Obamacare does do if you are injuried on a job and your Workers Compensation has been settled and you have no insurance it helps a lot. As senior citizens who are still working, employers has a tendency to get rid of older workers  for the simpliest reasons. Even if you retire on Social Security tomorrow it takes two years before you can apply for medicare, even if you retire on disability, without Obamacare you have no insurance to fill in the gap, if you are a veteran, you can go to the VAMC, but will you be seen by a Doctor, you may have and appointment set up for (6) months, two weeks before the appointment, its cancelled, and some times this can continue up to a year. Medicaid  will take your application for assistance with needed medications, but will turn you down when they find out the County Tax Office, record shows that you had three old cars, (11) eleven years ago, which has long been sold, and if you own your own home, its out of the question for any help with your medications, just something to think about.

AllenShaw
AllenShaw

Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) aka Obamacare contains a provision for additional Medicaid for  individuals that meet a certain financial status. Because of low unemployment many Black individuals will be eligible.

There is not time limitation for signing up. Individuals, in states that refuse the free federal government money, should be making every effort to force their state to accept the money.

Many of the states that will not accept the money are states with large Black populations.

Black leaders should be working hard to have the states accept the money and not blame President Obama for not doing anything for Blacks.

AllenShaw
AllenShaw

"Much of this may stem from the fact that blacks disproportionately, 62 percent, live in states that are refusing to accept Medicaid expansion."

From the above quote it is obvious that these statistics should be by states.

It is unreasonable to discuss any statistics when the majority of Blacks live in the south or in large cities in the north and the south is where the states do not allow additional medicare. (Study maps and charts of population of Blacks!) The large cities in the north are having financial problems due to the failure of the automobile industry. (See Detroit and Flint 2012)


If the point is to blame President Obama, forgive me, I don't want facts to get in the way of those who wish to find fault with him!

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_African-American_population

 http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0884135.html

BlackheywoodHeywood
BlackheywoodHeywood

Six years of Double Digit UE for Adult Black men and teens,under this President. We have benefited the least from the ACS aka Obamacare. But when the Black POTUS is criticized the person is attacked and vilified, we are told it's your own fault Black people are suffering.The only thing they've gotten right is that President Obama is not President of Black America, his war on us prove he certainly isn't and he doesn't give one damn about us.I hope Black folks respond in kind come the midterms. 

AllenShaw
AllenShaw

@Watchful

It is true that an increase in volume of customers will increase the potential for profit; however one has to remember that with the volume of new customers come many new senior citizens who will reduce the profit margin. Also many individuals that are not senior citizens will use the service.

If all of the desired young people will sign up those individuals will offset the loss experienced by the older and sicker patients.

The additional limitations of insurance companies to used only 10 or 15 percent of total revenue for advertisement and profit will also add to the money that will be put into funds used for patient care.

The insurance companies, doctors and hospitals have all been required to streamline the procedures and not double and triple charge for services.

Finally anyone can buy stock in insurance companies. Almost all of them are public and have stock to be purchased. If individuals feel that there is money to be made in the market, they should by all means purchase stock in those companies.

In those states that do not allow the additional Medicaid the citizens should be working hard to force their government to accept the three years of free government cost for that service. The Black population of those states seems to be high and your voices should be heard.

KateRian
KateRian

@AllenShaw -not so fast.......do some research-

California struggling to enroll African Americans in ObamacareAhead of Monday's Obamacare enrollment deadline, fewer than 3% of Covered California enrollees have identified themselves as African American, but 17% of the demographic in the state are uninsured.March 26, 2014- LA Times- 

AllenShaw
AllenShaw

@Watchful @AllenShaw

Always watchful, you like to show how unwise others are.

My response has been to those who have stated that "Obama Care was not for Blacks. You are one of them.


I am glad to see that the leaders are doing what they should have been doing last year, instead of blaming President Obama.

Your long statement which says that "Obamacare" is a fraud indicates your lack of understanding of the program.  The Medicaid Portion was written into the Act to provide free care for a large portion of the poor. Those of you who are not poor do not want to pay, so you were blinded by the cost to yourselves

Watchful
Watchful

@AllenShaw 


All those 'desired young people' u mentioned are exactly the ones who will be burdened with the rising health care costs. That's y many of them have opted to not to sign up bcuz they don't want to be forced to pay for everyone else's healthcare costs for the rest of their lives. If the POTUS had come up with a single payer healthcare plan like he should have then we wouldn't be having these high cost issues and the Big Insurance corporations and Big Pharma wouldn't be laughing their way all the way to the bank.  Obamacare is a fraud and the ppl who have taken the time to really dissect and examine the program know this. Unfortunately, no one seems to want to listen to them when they point out the failure of the system. The POTUS feels that Medicare is the real problem and has proposed cutting the program by half a trillion dollars which would place even more hardship on those that are already some of the most vulnerable among us namely the elderly poor. The 'steamlining' u mention only means denial by insurance companies of  tests and procedures that many patients need in order to receive adequate and proper care. I've experienced this first hand where I've had a couple of doctors tell me that my insurance provider would most likely not approve tests or procedures that the doctor felt I should have, but their hands are tied by the insurers. The insurers aren't 'streamlining' to save the patient any costs, they're doing it to save themselves costs and increase profits. That's the reality, and as a result we, the patients, receive inferior quality healthcare services. And u're sittin' there talkin' about ppl can invest in stocks in the big insurance companies when many of them can barely keep food on the table and a roof over their heads. Get real man, those ppl don't have no damn money to invest in the stock market. SMDH Obamacare needs to go and be replaced with a single payer system like it should have been from the start and the POTUS knows this, but he won't do it bcuz he's beholden to the those big wealthy corporations like he's always been and that's the real truth.

KateRian
KateRian

@AllenShaw - sadly, my dem ruled state of Cal is one of the most segregated, states in the US- The black community is completely segregated from the wealthy neighborhoods- additionally Cal has close to the highest level of income inequality in the US- you cant blame the South....& you will never change what you don't acknowledge-  

AllenShaw
AllenShaw

@KateRian @AllenShaw 

Thank you for your response. 

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/percent-628551-california-health.html Jul 10 2014

I could not retrieve your reference from March. Perhap you might want to review the above reference site for current information.

I will continue to look for statistics on the Black enrollment figures. If you find actual current figures please include them in your response.

Also review the California MediCal program which is for those individuals who receive free medical care.


Watchful
Watchful

@AllenShaw 


I'm currently on Medicaid, so I'm not one of those that's paying for Obamacare,  I worked for 37 years straight b4 being laid off and I got no problem receiving so-called 'free' healthcare now. I'm happy to receive some 'free' gov't assistance after all those years that I paid taxes into the system. I think I deserve to get some of that money back. 


That said, my point concerning so-called  Obamacare being a fraud is that it was touted as universal healthcare coverage and that's not what it really is, it's actually a compulsory insurance act and a tax, that's why the IRS has been assigned to enforce it. 


Like I said b4, it was designed to primarily benefit the big insurance corporations. And It hasn't always lowered costs either, in fact, in some instances it's actually caused some workers healthcare costs to rise significantly. Now, I realize that it has helped some ppl who did not have any type of healthcare coverage and that's a good thing. My problem with it is that it should have been a single payer plan which is what most ppl who sought a so-called universal healthcare plan really wanted, and the POTUS should and could have fought for just that. Instead he maintained the so-called status quo in terms of a healthcare system whose costs have continued to rise unabated.


Check out these articles and u may have a better idea of where I'm coming from.


http://www.pnhp.org/facts/what-is-single-payer


http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obama%E2%80%99s-health-care-charade


http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/obama-charges-backward-health-care



turkey1
turkey1

@AllenShaw @Watchful  I never state that Obamacare were a fraud, read my statement again, I said it is good, when you have no insurance. I just said these programs, in North Carolina for as Medicaid do not work if you need there help for medications.

AllenShaw
AllenShaw

@Watchful @AllenShaw 

Please see my comments between your remarks indicated by **

All those 'desired young people' u mentioned are exactly the ones who will be burdened with the rising health care costs. That's y many of them have opted to not to sign up bcuz they don't want to be forced to pay for everyone else's healthcare costs for the rest of their lives.

 ** Unfortunately this is misinformation, put out by those who were attempting to block the program.Those individuals who have participated in the program have found out that their costs are relative cheap and some have even used the benefits.**

If the POTUS had come up with a single payer healthcare plan like he should have then we wouldn't be having these high cost issues and the Big Insurance corporations and Big Pharma wouldn't be laughing their way all the way to the bank. 

**The President may have originally asked for a single payer system; however the Congress did not allow it to happen.The President signed the bill that he was given.**

 Obamacare is a fraud and the ppl who have taken the time to really dissect and examine the program know this. Unfortunately, no one seems to want to listen to them when they point out the failure of the system.

**Unless you have had your head in the sand you would realize that the program is a success according to most honest observations and the only people that don’t agree are still waiting for the problems to occur.**

The POTUS feels that Medicare is the real problem and has proposed cutting the program by half a trillion dollars which would place even more hardship on those that are already some of the most vulnerable among us namely the elderly poor.

**The half billion dollars that was removed from the Medicare Advantage program was for correction of doctor fees and billing.No benefits were removed from Senior Citizens**

The 'steamlining' u mention only means denial by insurance companies of  tests and procedures that many patients need in order to receive adequate and proper care. I've experienced this first hand where I've had a couple of doctors tell me that my insurance provider would most likely not approve tests or procedures that the doctor felt I should have, but their hands are tied by the insurers. The insurers aren't 'streamlining' to save the patient any costs, they're doing it to save themselves costs and increase profits. That's the reality, and as a result we, the patients, receive inferior quality healthcare services.

**I am truly sorry that you have had such personal experience with your insurer.Perhaps you should investigate another insurance agent or pick a more expensive plan.I have not had such an experience. I have had discussions with various doctors who have placed there records on computers and who have teamed up with other providers to provide a far better service. I guess you mean that you have actually joined up with an insurance plan that complies with the “Obamacare” law.**

And u're sittin' there talkin' about ppl can invest in stocks in the big insurance companies when many of them can barely keep food on the table and a roof over their heads. Get real man, those ppl don't have no damn money to invest in the stock market.

**If anyone is so poor that they can’t put food on the table and a roof over their head, they should be eligible for the new Medicaid program.I am truly sorry if they live in one of the state that refuses to accept free funds to support the program, because of political disagreement.The cost of investing in stocks can be as low as $10.00 a month.The lottery tickets cost many individuals more than that each month.**

SMDH Obamacare needs to go and be replaced with a single payer system like it should have been from the start and the POTUS knows this, but he won't do it bcuz he's beholden to the those big wealthy corporations like he's always been and that's the real truth.

** See above paragraph about single pay.**

AllenShaw
AllenShaw

@KateRian @AllenShaw 

As I stated before, you have to look at each state separately. You make a statement that California is the most segregated states in the US.  Where are the statistics for this statement? 

It is true that LA, San Diego, San Francisco have large populations of Blacks, however I would like you to give me the information that indicates the reason for such segregation.

Is it partially volunteers or are individuals forced into those areas.  Do you count all Blacks or are you looking into the poverty areas.

My daughter and grandson live in California and I have visited on various occasions and have not been made aware of any segregation.

Yes, there is a separation of those who have obtained advanced education and those who have not and there are housing area that have been traditionally Black since the 1940 when

integration began.

I am looking forward to your information.

AllenShaw
AllenShaw

@Watchful @AllenShaw 

These articles appeared in 2009.  The debate is offer.  The next Congress will have to consider Single Pay.  This Republican controlled Congress will not consider any request that President Obama submits. Are you watching?

Watchful
Watchful

@AllenShaw 


I'm not gonna keep goin' back and forth with u on this topic. U seem to feel the ACA is just great and I see it as a very flawed program that's not even close to what it could and should have been. I'm content to just agree to disagree.

Watchful
Watchful

@AllenShaw 


The dates of the articles are irrelevant, but the points made are still quite applicable. 


Watching what exactly?

AllenShaw
AllenShaw

@Watchful @AllenShaw 

Final reply. Thanks for your time and effort. These matters need to be talked out without anyone being right or wrong.Your point about single pay being the correct solution was brought out and defeated. To keep the program it had to be sacrificed, that is what politics is all about. to get some you give some. I believe we need to concentrate on the 24 states that are refusing to give their citizens Medicaid.  When that battle is won and other issues may be brought forward.  For now - Nothing But Medicaid For the Poor"

Once again Thank you.

AllenShaw
AllenShaw

@KateRian @AllenShaw A lot to read and study to try to understand what is being said in the above references.

I will get back to you!

I read past the headlines

AllenShaw
AllenShaw

@KateRian 

I reviewed the articles you referenced.  They seem to have more to do with an income gap than segregation. 

The one report was made to Governor Schwarzenegger, who was a Republican. If he failed to take any action he had 8 years before he turned the state back over to Governor Brown.  It seems that maybe some of the action that could have been taken, such as lending money to individuals to purchase homes their income could not support turned out to be called fraud.

It is money or lack of money that forces individuals into rental homes. Blacks who are prepared for the new work force are living anywhere they choose.

How do we encourage those Blacks, who do not have required working skills to learn new required skills. If they acquired skills they could move away from the traditions home of those who are poor.

Can you help find the answer?


I am neither a Democrat or Republican.  I do not see our problems as problems caused by either party.  Our problems are caused by the failure of the Automobile Industry and other normal economical issues.