Is it Me, Or Did the Black Community Just Get Played by Oprah? 10 Questions You Should Be Asking

Is it Me, Or Did the Black Community Just Get Played by Oprah? 10 Questions You Should Be Asking
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by Yvette Carnell

Are the natives restless again? As Oprah beats the drum of racism, Black America’s got her back, as never before. The billionaire empress is now caricatured as the victim of a lowly Swiss sales clerk who, according to Oprah, refused to show the Queen of All Media a $38, 000 pocketbook because she’s nigra.   Bad saleslady! Good billionaire!

But before you go jumping on the Oprah bandwagon, here are just a few things you should consider, both about race in general and this case in particular, before forming a final conclusion.

  • The Black Elite, who often consider themselves “special” Negroes, separate themselves from ordinary Blacks until they need us. If Oprah is concerned about race, then why isn’t she hosting a ‘stop and frisk’ panel on OWN? She seems only concerned about herself, and what she perceives as mistreatment at the hands of a white woman. Is it all about her…. and her $38,000 purse? Just as it was about her experience at an Hermes store awhile back?
  • Oprah is currently promoting the movie “The Butler.” Is it impossible for black folk to even consider and question the timing of Oprah’s accusation? Or do we just run to the defense of every black person who cries racism?
  • The saleslady at the store said that she never refused to show Oprah the purse because of race, saying she makes money from commission, and not showing Oprah the purse based on racist grounds doesn’t make any sense. Doesn’t she have a point?
  • Also, the saleslady says Oprah was treated warmly and shown several purses in the store, something which Oprah never denied. Does that sort of treatment sound like the treatment of a woman with a racial axe to grind?
  • Is it possible that Oprah, coming from one of the most racist countries in the Western World, has her own baggage, and felt slighted, even though that’s not what the saleslady intended?
  • Could the saleslady’s attitude have been more about class than race?
  • Why does Oprah Winfrey, a billionaire, still seem so desperate for white acceptance? As the saleslady pointed out, the owner of the boutique was at Tina Turner’s wedding along with Oprah, so why not take it up there, as a private matter? Why did Oprah feel the need to answer a reporter’s question by recounting this incident? Why did Oprah feel the need to bring international attention to her not being allowed to buy a $38,000 handbag?
  • Is it morally acceptable for any elite to turn an ordinary person’s life upside down over a perceived slight? Doesn’t that make Oprah a bully?
  • Why do we believe that Black Elites are any less cunning and flawed than White Elites?
  • Who gives a damn about a $38,000 pocketbook anyway when there are so many other larger issues at play?

Listen Black America, a whole nation has apologized to Ms. Winfrey over this nonsense, and you should get over it too. You shouldn’t have allowed yourselves to be used as a tool and worked into a frenzy by Ms. Winfrey’s PR campaign in the first place. Save that for a time when Ms. Winfrey can bring more to the silver screen than “The Butler”, which is nothing more than a 2013 rendering of “The Help.”  Maybe when Oprah decides to use her platform to share authentic black stories, we can be there to support, but until then, let her fight her own battles.

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RoxanaAMacdougall
RoxanaAMacdougall

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Mr Steven Even
Mr Steven Even

Oprah has had a hard way to go since the beginning of her career in TV.  She was an unknown personality from Chicago gone national with a half hour interview show.  No one in the NY area knew her.  Even then she was controversial.  Many black folks were delighted to a black woman on TV with her own show, while others were saying/ "why they put her on TV" because she weighed over 200 lbs.  After hearing her story of coming from a far from ideal background and going through some dysfunctional experiences she manage to take her god given abilities to rise to the heights she now enjoys.  One of her benefits is to be the most downgraded and maligned black persons alive just because she's successful beyond imagination.  To answer your question. ITS YOU!


Mr Steven Even
Mr Steven Even

Why is any black person that makes two dollars over lunch money an enemy od the rest of the black people?.  Please tell me why?

Silky7210
Silky7210

~ Oprah Winfrey . . . exactly who are you kidding?We black folks know Oprah Winfrey has absolutely no connection to the black community.Oprah Winfrey’s connection is with the white community.

“The Butler”, “The Help” and even “Selma” is a Public Relations Smoke-Screen.What does Oprah Winfrey know about the black struggle?Appeasing and accommodating white folks is Oprah’s claim to fame.

With only a handful of black acquaintances and a multitude of black servants; this about sums-up Oprah’s black experience.


Commissioning a group of writers and actors to develop a production of the movie “The Butler” & “Selma”, sort of reminds me of Diana Ross’s come-back, (return to the black community) with the production of the movie “Mahogony”; conveniently appearing relevant to the black community in the wake the current black struggle against Police Tyranny in the black communities across America.


dedav2222
dedav2222

It appears that you don't like Oprah. Your reasoning is flawed. The salesperson did not show Oprah the handbag because she did not think that Oprah could afford it. And she did not think Oprah could afford the handbag because Oprah was black.


Now, understand that the salesperson did not show Oprah the handbag, so she discriminated regardless of her reason. 


Had she recognized Oprah, then she would have shown her the handbag. You also stated Class as a reason. How can someone determine class? What determines class? It is the same nonsense that determines race....prejudice.



Bahati Sobukwe
Bahati Sobukwe

Or, how long is this title...did Opray play... going to stay on Livefyre.  

RonMack1
RonMack1

Interesting and I fully agree. If she was all that concerned about Black issue, she should have had her FAT OVER WEIGHT ASS in Ferguson. Do a show on police brutality, then come talk to me O

debelizakova
debelizakova

Multiply tweets by Oprah to pitch her latest movie ("Selma") but nary a tweet in support of #BlackLivesMatter, etc. Abandoning my O subscription...

WonnettaWilson
WonnettaWilson

It;'s like "Buffalo-Hunters", traveling all over young America, destroying all the young "BUCKS", thereby weakening the TRIBES.

anology


WonnettaWilson
WonnettaWilson

People have to be themselves, above all. Do what appeases you and what makes you happy and satisfied. Stick to your points, and follow the rules of the road that you travel. Your KARMA is yours alone. Deserve it!!


queenofmeanest
queenofmeanest

Since the topic of Ferguson came up.  I will say my piece on this issue.

The person who initially started this horrendous act was Michael Brown.  People have forgotten that it was Michael Brown that used his size to bully the store clerk when he stole the cigarillos.  Michael should have been out working or looking for a job. Actually he should not have been jeopardizing his health by smoking.


I do not AGREE with the actions of Officer Wilson.  If he was going to discharge his weapon, one bullet would have sufficed in the shoulder or leg.  He did not have to empty his clip and add additional bullets.


Just because Officer Wilson was on a supposed emergency call, anyone who has committed a crime should know that once that call goes over the radio it becomes open season on a young black man.  


Even with a small minute amount of money, cops will forgo the call and go after the money.


I am sorry that a another mother lost her child.  However, people must remember that Michael set the stage for his suicide by cop.  


Do I support the cops?  HELL TO THE NAW.  I also blame the City of Ferguson, the State of Missouri and the Ferguson pigs for the continuous racism against the Blacks in the state of Missouri and I blame all law enforcement and government agencies across this country for the racism against people of color.


My question is:  Why aren't you looking at Michael Brown for his actions?  He would have been alive if he had obeyed the law and made a better judgement decision.

Gloria Dulan Wilson
Gloria Dulan Wilson

From the tone of the article I can only assume that Yvette - the writer - is either white, or thinks like a redneck!

I have already stated that it appears that Breaking Brown is designed to set Black people against each other - I've read nothing positive or uplifting from them about Black people yet.

This  purse incident happened a year ago - why is it still relevant?  

If a Black person, rich or poor is discriminated against, or harmed by whites or other genres of human beings, in any way it affects us all - it has nothing to do with how much money - it has everything to do with the fact that we are all in this together - stop trying to play divide and conquer games. We have to stand together and stand for each other - or we'll continue to be low man and woman on the totem pole.   Oprah Winfrey is a fantastic sister who has done well with her life - respect and  be happy for that and stop all this crappy, crabs-in-a-barrel carping.  Stay Blessed & ECLECTICALLY BLACK - Gloria Dulan-Wilson www.gloriadulanwilson.blogspot.com/ECLECTICALLY BLACK NEWS 



greenwood1921
greenwood1921

@Mr Steven Even This women came from the JEWISH MEDIA propaganda machine. What GOD given abilities and talents are you refering to. It is you , that defines her show as, "A Half-HOUR Interview Show" There is No talent needed. You have two more yearsfor  Mr. for,"The One", to leave office(Obama) without doing a damn thing for BLACK MEN.  However, the Kenyan/White man never stated, he would HELP Black Men. NINE-TRILLION DOLLARS later  spent in (5 years) you still DONT GET IT!!!

RonMack1
RonMack1

@Silky7210 Exactly! Like I said, if she was really all that concerned about justice for victims of police excution of Black children, why don't she hold na interview with the parents of Tamir Rice, Mikd Brown, the family of Eric Garner? But just like our COWARDLY ASS attorney general and our WEAK ASS predient, she is too concerned about pissing off white people. This whole damned thing MAKES ME SICK! Not enough evidence to charge ISIS COP derrein wilson! They didn't try to find it. It is once again okay for whites to kill Blacks here in America. Just like years ago 

queenofmeanest
queenofmeanest

@Bahati Sobukwe 

It is up to the owner of this site.  As long as the dialogue continues.  If you are tired of it, stop coming here.

RonMack1
RonMack1

@queenofmeanest I really wish you would read your post and see how really STUCK ON STUPID you really sound. If all of us got our BRAINS BLOWN OUT for stupid thing we did when we were young, none of us would be here.

Toni31912
Toni31912

That video WAS NOT of Michael Brown. Maybe you missed that part, but Michael WAS NOT the person in that video. You know how they could have found that out? By investigating, which could have happened if they HADN'T killed him.

shbkyn45
shbkyn45

@queenofmeanest  You obviously, are lacking common sense.  Why you keep saying Michael Brown is responsible for his murder.  Taking cigars, and ruffing up a store owner, do not warrant someone killing you.  The coward racist killer cop is to blame and no one else, for the murder of Michael Brown.  Remember when he drove up on the scene, and then abruptly and forcefully open the door on Brown, the door slammed back on him or his racist face, that is what started it all, him doing something stupid, and then wanted to be the big bad pig, and started attacking Michael Brown, and he is not the puny like pig he tries to make himself out to be.  He is over 6', and over 250 lbs.  You need to shut it down, I believe we have seen and had enough of your nonsense.  OK.

Gloria Dulan Wilson
Gloria Dulan Wilson

@queenofmeanest What planet are you on?  Surely not here with the rest of us! There has never been a time in the history of law enforcement where a person jaywalking required an officer to draw a gun.  There has not now, nor has there ever been any proof that Michael Brown was ever engaged in anything that would require his being shot 6 times, and being shot at 12 times.  There is nothing that shows that any of his actions, real or imagined, warranted his being shot.  And there is nothing, nothing, nothing that shows that Michael Brown initiated the problem!!  The store clerk did not call the police and say he was threatened with a gun - yes there was something on camera showing that he was not a model choir boy.  Not only was Darrel Wilson not aware of the incident, but there was nothing showing that he menaced or in any way was ever a threat to Darrel Wilson, the red necked racist cop who shot him down in cold blood - so the two do not compute.  Again, I ask what effing planet are you on?  You don't support police brutality?  That's nice!  But you are trying to fix a blame where there is none - and since you're so good at blaming the victim, they should have hired you in the Ferguson police department - I'm sure you would have been of immense assistance to them during the time they were trying to come up with lies to cover Darrel Wilson's behind. Generally speaking,  I think when a person walks toward you with his hands are raised, he's clearly unarmed - and he's at least 30 feet from you, the concept pretty much is DON'T SHOOT YOU DUMB M-F'R!! So, @queenofmeanest, just what actions are you alluding to? What else should the victim have done - get a noose and hang himself too? And, for the record, there is no such thing as "suicide by cop" it's called police brutality, excessive force, cold blooded murder, license to kill, racism, etc. 

CarolParks
CarolParks

@Gloria Dulan Wilson,

Ms. Carnell, the author of this article, & Dr. Boyd, are both Black. I can understand why you might think, this was written by a redneck, or a white racist. Unfortunately, the majority of articles are against famous, & powerful Black people. Really SAD.

greenwood1921
greenwood1921

@RonMack1 @Silky7210 THIS women has never hid how much she HATES Black men. The movie," COLOR PURPLE", was intended to uplift BW, this said by Alice Walker, Whoopie Goldberg and Oprah. It uplifted BW women all right. Steven Speilberg spent 73 million on this filthy movie stating," I just had to make this movie". Never has she made movie that could uplift BW. Only disrespecting BM is her goal. 


 This is why Obama is,"The One". A TRUE COWARD.  A real Black man would never do what he has done as president ,using our race to do the evils of the INTERNATIONAL BANKSTERS.   

queenofmeanest
queenofmeanest

@RonMack1 @queenofmeanest 

My, my, my aren't you the pot calling the kettle black.  Just a little while ago, you was spouting the same thing about Zimmerman and you was called out on it.

Years ago, our parents instilled in us the art of responsibility and blacks lived in the village where we got our asses whooped by the neighbors and then our parents tore our asses up.

So is stuck on stupid now?

queenofmeanest
queenofmeanest

@shbkyn45 @queenofmeanest 

You need to shut it down as well.  I have had enough of your irresponsible bullschyt as well too.Explain one thing to me.

Why was Michael Brown's blood on the inside of the police car on the passenger side?

That is the key to this case.

In case you did not know, young black men are in the crosshairs of racist cops.  But there comes a time when young black men need to take responsibility for their actions.  Someone from that store called the police and reported Michael for what happened.  With that being said, again, no roughing up someone does not justify murder, but committing a illegal action in a militarized cop killing trigger happy society is very subject to serious solution and discussion.

Young black men really need to tow the line without stumbling.  Unlike you, I can ask the hard questions and will make the hard statements.

Was the cigarillos worth losing his life?  NO.  Was Michael Brown the victim of overkill?  Yes?  What you do not like about me is that I am not like you who is willing to accept the crumbs from the MASSA'S table begging for scraps to be accepted into white society.


Wilson was wrong for killing Michael Brown and I have said that, so man or woman up and look at the whole picture objectively and see where Michael erred in his execution.


That is the problem with black people like you these days, always dropping children into this world but not instilling the values and discipline in your children.


Jobs is the major solution to this problem.  Michael was a teenager who probably thought he was above flipping burgers and I guess with your attitude flipping burgers is beneath you too.


Before you get on my case.  Look at Michael's recently opened juvenile record and then get back to me.  This is one of the decisions that gave the jury an out to refuse to indict Wilson.

 

Johnw11
Johnw11

@Gloria Dulan Wilson @queenofmeanest  I agree with you. Also, there is video evidence that shows Mike paid for the cigars.

But I'm glad I did decide to read the latest comments in this discussion.

To claim that Mike is responsible for his own murder is consistent with the right-wing's specious narrative and is COMPLETELY insane.

I am now clear on something I suspected all along...

I am on troll alert!


queenofmeanest
queenofmeanest

@Gloria Dulan Wilson @queenofmeanest 

I agree that not even jaywalking does not give grounds to being shot, however, in today's militarized cop killing trigger happy society, one must walk that line and not stumble in the process.

Too many young black men are being shot just for sport.  However, Michael thought he can get away with anything by bullying the store clerk.  All it takes is a misdemeanor and if he was arrested, this could have been a felony.

So what effing planet are you on when you are ignoring the events that led to this tragedy.  As I have said in another post, someone called the police about the incident and reported it.  Since it wasn't the clerk, then who was it?

I have never supported police brutality, but I know the redneck who is willing to kill even without a legitimate reason mentality.  

I also blame Darryl Gates for creating the militarized police mentality

If Michael wasn't working, he should have had a summer job or looking for one.  When I was growing up, my father gave me and my brothers two options for the summer.  Either get a summer job or go to summer school.  I worked every summer unless we was on a family vacation.  For two summers, I picked cotton while visiting my great grandmother in Mississippi.

Tonite a family is in mourning because their son was killed in a high speed chase after robbing a Gamestop with a BB gun.  He just got out of prison in February.


Who is at fault here?


BTW, this young man is black.  Was it worth it?

queenofmeanest
queenofmeanest

@CarolParks 

What the problem is that both Ms Carnell and Dr. Boyd think that blacks who really make it have forgotten from where they came from and that they should take care of everybody.

 

RonMack1
RonMack1

@queenofmeanest @RonMack1 YOU! You are still STUCK ON STUPID like a RAT ON STICKY PAPER. Just refuse to get off STUPID. So being the INTELLIGENT, EDUCATED, BLACK MAN that I am, I will no longer dignify myself, by trying to convince a FOOL who refuses to see.

shbkyn45
shbkyn45

@queenofmeanest @shbkyn45  Last comment, because you do not deserve to have common sense people responding back to you, it is like beating a dead horse.   I will inform you this about yourself, to ask a question about young black youth going to prison, tells me, you do not have a clue about what is happening around you in this country.  To ask a question like that, you absolutely, positively, do not know how white supremacy works, most times it will have you thinking the people who comes up against it, are the ones with the problem, when it is the other way around.  Do yourself a favor, try to learn, before you come out here trying to convince people to see things your way, you make these statements, and don't realize they do not make sense.  Do yourself a favor shut it down.  I am done.

shbkyn45
shbkyn45

@queenofmeanest @shbkyn45  Most states do not allow juvenile's records in, do not try to make excuses fro those jurors.  Trust me most jurors, lack common sense/critical thinking skills, and those are the ones who get picked to serve, they are incapable of looking at the evidence, and use it, in the proper manner, they just cannot do it, I know I have seen them in action, and observing other cases like Trayvon Martin case, now you take about some racist, and that was a problem with Mike Brown's case.  When I served in a jury pool. the DAS and defense attorneys will choose one individual who is a critical thinker, the rest are retards.  As for me not instilling values in my children, how do you know that?  You should stick to the discussion of this murder case, and stop trying to get personal, because it only show what I say about you is correct.   Why you asked the question was the cigars worth risking his life, since when taking cigars got to be that valuable?   Here is what you are doing, it is like people saying blacks catch so much hell because of the color of our brown or black skin, no that is not why, it is living under white supremacy/racism that causes blacks so much suffering.

queenofmeanest
queenofmeanest

@RonMack1 @queenofmeanest 

Then stop looking in the mirror.  You really need to grow up and learn to think and analyze certain situations.

You are not the educated like you claim you are.  Education can also come from life experiences and observations.

Unlike yourself, I never did the childish elementary/junior high/middle school clique bullschyt.  I  Always riding on what the majority says instead of analyzing certain situations and asking the hard questions.


Unlike your minions who don't believe in accountablility, I do not believe in that all black people look alike.  I do not believe in coincidences.


One person on the board said that it wasn't Michael Brown.  Then another person said, that Michael did pay for his cigars. Yet another person said the truth would have come out if they investigated.


That last part is laughable.  Tell me, what would a investigation prove?  How many times a black man/woman who was accused of a crime and the investigation and evidence proved they were innocent and they were sent to prison anyway?  Who are you going to believe in the investigation? 


If it wasn't Michael Brown like you and the others claim explain to me how did Michael's blood end up in the front passenger side of Wilson's squad car?


Investigate that and then come back to me.


In the meantime, you are a cockroach that is stuck on a piece of paper.


In another forum, it was brought to the board's attention as to your mental stability.

Call Dr. Phil and get over yourself.



queenofmeanest
queenofmeanest

@shbkyn45 @queenofmeanest 

Good.  I am shutting it down and I will have the last word.

You lied about my not know what white supremacy is like and what it is capable of.

Remember those three civil rights workers in Mississippi?

I met one of the murderers when I was visiting my great grandmother.  I was four years old.  I was not born in the south and I was never raised to look down when a white person walked in your direction.

The sheriff involved looked at me and said out loud, that gal is not from here.  She thinks she is uppity because she does not look down when a white man walks by.

I kept staring at him.  My grandmother spoke up and said and this comment could have gotten her lynched in Meridian, MS.

She said, what is it that a four year old scares you?

That night, those civil rights workers were kidnapped and executed.

So I am very much aware of white supremacy is all about.  I live in one of the most racist states in the country and it is not the south.

What you do not like is that I hold people responsible for their action.

Like you I am done.  Shut it down and take a hike.

Good riddance.

queenofmeanest
queenofmeanest

@shbkyn45 @queenofmeanest 

In this case, the records were revealed.  Like yourself, I have served on jury duty and everytime it was for capital murder cases.  

I don't know what state you live in, but in every case I have served jury duty with are people with degrees.

I agree with you about the racism that was implemented by the district attorney in the brown case.  What you fail to realize, how much was Michael's action was drilled into the jury.

Yes, I am sorry that Michael lost his life.  I would rather have him in jail than six foot under.  Either way, his whole life was screwed.  If he was going to college, that would have been delayed with a bogus felony.

Yes, we are living under the US version of apartheid.   However, there some aspects of the black community that must be cleaned up.  What I do not understand is why so many black men are willing to go to jail and think it is the best thing for them.

As a mother and grandmother I worry about my sons all of the time.  

A young black man caught on tape kicking a woman in the back while she held her 2 mo. old baby and stole her cell phone.

Explain that behavior?

BTW, check out this link.  I did make the comment about flipping burgers, would you make burgers for McDeath or flip them and be free?

http://financialjuneteenth.com/12-corporations-profiting-from-the-prison-industrial-complex/

 

RonMack1
RonMack1

@queenofmeanest @RonMack1 WOW, you've got it all figured out don't you? I never said that MB paid of the smokes or that was not him in the video. Reading your ramblings I've come to a conclusion. You are a white girl and must be kin to sarah palin. (small caps intended) Tell me something queenofmeanest. Can you see Russia from your house?


:-)

queenofmeanest
queenofmeanest

@RonMack1 @queenofmeanest 

I never said that you said that Michael paid for the cigars.  I said someone posted this.?  Re-read my post.  I did not say that you posted that Michael was not the one in the video.  It was someone else.


I would not know about seeing Russia from my house.  But I can see the shea butter trees from my friend's house in Ghana.  But I do know that I am a black woman. 

I ask the hard questions.  Now based on your post, you could be a white boy and you must be kin to Rush Limbaugh.

Try working on your reading comprehension.



RonMack1
RonMack1

@queenofmeanest @RonMack1 wasn't Michael Brown like you and the others claim explain to me how did Michael's blood end up in the front passenger side of Wilson's squad car?"


That is a drect quote from your post.  I copied and pasted it. Now I know that you are VOID OF ANY INTELLECT! Me, kin to rush limbaugh, that's really funny. But you still did not answer my question. CAN YOU SEE RUSSIA FROM YOU HOUSE :-) You are not Black. Good night. Have to teach a college class tomorrow


BTW Adam and Eve were Black Gen 2:13. If you are Black, then you are a SELF HATING NEGRO

RonMack1
RonMack1

@queenofmeanest @RonMack1 " If it wasn't Michael Brown like you and the others claim explain to me how did Michael's blood end up in the front passenger side of Wilson's squad car?"


That is a drect quote from your post.  I copied and pasted it. Now I know that you are VOID OF ANY INTELLECT! Me, kin to rush limbaugh, that's really funny. But you still did not answer my question. CAN YOU SEE RUSSIA FROM YOU HOUSE :-) You are not Black. Good night. Have to teach a college class tomorrow

queenofmeanest
queenofmeanest

@RonMack1 @queenofmeanest 

You lied about Gen 2:13.  It says and I quote "And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and onyx stone.

You are a self hating negro yourself.  You are the worst kind of negro.  You are the type of negro that associate criminal action with positive reinforcement.

 Now I know that you are VOID OF ANY INTELLECT! Me, kin to Sara Palin, that's really funny.  Again, you did not answer my question.  What's wrong?  Scurred?