President Of Everyone Except Black People Gives Race Speech at Morehouse

President Of Everyone Except Black People Gives Race Speech at Morehouse
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by Yvette Carnell

There are so many ironies to President Obama’s Morehouse speech that one hardly knows where to begin …..or end. Yesterday, I pointed out that Obama seems toBarack Obama, John Silvanus Wilson Jr., have a selective memory where his parents are concerned, a flawed memory which entails giving his mother all of the credit and his absent father  all of the blame. But as a Facebook friend noted, there’s a second irony to the Morehouse speech: That a man who proclaims himself to be the president of all people, not just black people, would be so bold as to give a ‘credit to your race speech’ at a historically black college.

Here’s President Obama in his own words:

You are the mantle of Frederick Douglass and Booker T. Washington and Ralph Bunche and Langston Hughes and George Washington Carver and Ralph Abernathy and Thurgood Marshall and, yes, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. These men were many things to many people and they knew full well the role that racism played in their life. But when it came to their own accomplishments and sense of purpose, they had no time for excuses. Every one of you has a grandma or an uncle or a parent whose told you at some point in life as an African American you have to work twice as hard as anyone else if you want to get by.

There was a downpour at Morehouse yesterday during commencement, but the graduates weren’t only drenched in rain:

Sometimes I wrote off my own failings as just another example of the world trying to keep a black man down. I had a tendency sometimes to make excuses for me not doing the right thing. But one of the things that all of you have learned over the last four years, is there’s no longer any room for excuses.

And lastly:

….you have to remember that whatever you’ve gone through pales in comparison to the hardships previous generations endured – and they overcame, and if they overcame them, you can overcome them too.

It’s the ‘work twice as hard and be a credit to your race’ speech that all Blacks have become accustomed to, but it sounds awkward coming from President Obama, not because of who Obama is, but because of what Mr. Obama does and does not represent.

After being needled by Blacks to handle issues specific to our circumstance, such as legislation to address double digit unemployment in our community for example, Obama pushed back, asserting that he’s the president of all people, not just Black people. But when he took center stage at Morehouse, he transformed to become the voice on race in America?

The takeaway: Mr. Obama is mostly unwilling to discuss race, especially as it relates to policies that will improve the plight of Black America, but he’s perfectly willing to discuss race when it entails him telling Blacks to work “twice as hard”, be good parents, and stop making excuses (a word he used at least four times).

Obama wants you to be a credit to your race, but he doesn’t feel as if he owes the Black race anything. He wants you to live by the standard of ‘twice as good’ but doesn’t feel that he, as President of the United States, should do anything to ameliorate that double standard.

If that’s not irony, then I don’t know what is.

Obama is not just a failed president. He is a failed Black president. How ‘s that for duality?

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snow man
snow man

How much money have you given to HBCS?

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That being said. What are going to do. Continue to work hard . What ever working  hard means to you Or are you going to continue to bad mouth the president. Don't you get it No law can save our community. They can help but we have to save ourselves with or without help. If not we will go the way of the Native Americans left waiting for someone to correct past wrongs. Don't waste valuable time and mental energy evaluating Obama's short coming. Instead create a bright future from the opportunity available in your immediate environment. Our people have accomplished great things with must less opportunity than you have now. So use that amazing creativity energy to solve and overcome problems.  It's on us not the President. Eight years is all the time he gets to fix a 400 year tragedy. We have a lifetime.

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personj1947
personj1947

@snow man Oh my God! There they are; those long lost booth strings or so it seems. First it was: Don’t ask for anything until he gets in. Then it became: Let him get that second term and now it’s: We can pull ourselves up by our booth strings. The truth is; African Americans who voted for the President are so ashamed of him they make all these excuses. Furthermore, the use of the term “bad mouth” gave away your argument. Not once did you suggest that minimum wage workers, illegal immigrant or same sex couples help themselves. Although the President can’t make law, he sure found a way to help them; And he found a way in less than eight years.

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WonnettaWilson

This is Wonnetta Wilson, and I never posted this.  I've lived in Chicago all of my life and I am very familiar with  Jewish people, culture and otherwise. I never speak of a race of people in an unscientific environment. Things are always changing, but it seems , and or appears that there is a fair amount of people who would be happy to see Blacks and Jews eradicated from the face of this earth.

I decline the deceptive invite to this blog. Please delete me.

WonnettaWilson
WonnettaWilson

When you cast a person as a perfect Human Being, and place him above others, then your expectations are enormous.Can anyone ever live up to another's expectations, when most of us do not even know ourselves or what to expect next?

I'd say, the Best reaction is to do what is needed to sustain  you while you watch and wait...


JanetWilliams1
JanetWilliams1

@Johnw11 @WonnettaWilson  Nothing wrong with that.
What specifically would you have Obama do?
Here's what you're unconscious mind will say: 
tell President Obama to stop allowing and promoting tens of millions of uneducated, broke strangers to come here and compete with us for jobs.

See?  Isn't nice to know that  you're unconscious  has the answer to every question you will ever ask?

BlackRobbb
BlackRobbb

@WonnettaWilson The problem is not high expectations. The problem is that too many of our people lack functional intelligence and possess very low standards. Jews demand more and get more. Black folks demand less and get the butt end of the hog. Obama's done a lot -- for Wall Street, homosexuals, foreigners.

JanetWilliams1
JanetWilliams1

@BlackRobbb @WonnettaWilson 
I agree that Obama has done a lot for foreigners. 
Especially  illegals.

"Jews demand more"?  Fact is, Jews  GIVE more.
I  wonder if you're aware that there are more  than twice as many black folks just in this country than there are Jews in the entire world.  The whole world !!

Yet Jews manage to invent half the inventions, write half the books, make half the movies, and win half the Nobel Prizes.

Do American Jews have a lot of money?  If they do, they got almost all of it in the past 100 years or so, because that's when most of them came here dead broke.

The sooner you accept these truths, the sooner you will benefit.

Johnw11
Johnw11

@WonnettaWilson  I don't think the problem is too high expectations. I think the problem is too many Blacks have no expectations at all of this president. They are just happy to see him in office, despite the fact that his policies are destroying Blacks (which they can't see for blind worship).

On the other hand, those Blacks seeking political reciprocity for their votes, are doing what is consistent with democracy. They simply want to be treated like all other Americans.

What's wrong with that?


BlackRobbb
BlackRobbb

@JanetWilliams1 @WonnettaWilson Benefit from what? I don't hold my breath waiting for or expecting sock puppets like Obama to do anything on my behalf. That would fit the clinical definition of insanity.

yehuel
yehuel

Are you a Sister as well?  Send a Picture to prove   ok

yehuel
yehuel

To dedav2222 Yes I am a Brother- Hebrew Israelite in fact!  The view are Real and I am not Blinded as you are to this Evil White System!  If Pharaoh Obama skin white-Blacks would have been marching and Protesting in front of the White House and race riots would soon follow! But the fact Obama skin is Blacks have paid little attention to Evil White sponsored Laws that have set back Blacks 80 years!  Well laid plan by Whitey-  Obama has worst things then both the Dirty Bush time in Office!   Obama got A Free Nigger Card from Black folks maybe they are waking up to His Damnable Lies!    Yes!   I have skin both a foolish like most Black People-  I support no government or party other than the Nation of Yahweh

yehuel
yehuel

Finally, someone is using Common Sense! How is this government is concerned about Black Unemployment,when this Mutlatto Bastard President has betrayed that persons who most looked like him. Black people have become an obsolete work force in the scheme of America . Note: if this country was trully the United States of America-then Why the Black Vote,the Black Unemployment, the Black murder, the Black Crime, the Black etc., is always Separated from the Rest of the United States of America`s iindicators as apart of the whole. The Dredd- Scott Decision! This President- Pharaoh Obama is allowing another workforce to come in to Replace you So-Called Black People! The scheme is allow Alleged smugglers to bring in small South American children into America process them and force their parents to come to America to instantly obtain benefits of an American citizen. All financed by the Government of America but then cry about the lack of monies for social benefits for Black People like money for Black college funding- Like closing public schools in the Black Communities- like cutting the Food Stamp Benefits for Black recieptants. The same money they gave to the New undocumented forced citizens broughted in by Pharaoh Obama and rest of the crooks! Wake Up My People! This Evil White America has a even Greater Plan for the So-Called Black Family . Contretration Camps on the pretense of the Ebola Scare- being that it's coming from a Black country. Also those persons being forced in are All White or from European bloodline . No Black People! No medicine for the Black Brother from Africa but the Whiteys got treated and cured from Ebola within 4 days? The Cure is made for Whites Only- Evil White European Eugenics!

dedav2222
dedav2222

@yehuel I don't  believe that you are black. I think that you are a white racist pretending to care about black people to acquire some form of credibility just to attack the president. Your comments are too extreme.


Why don't you give your real name?

JanetWilliams1
JanetWilliams1

"fight double digit unemployment"?  Is this a joke?  He's HELPING double digit unemployment. Wake up.  He's bringing tens of millions of foreigners here to compete for your jobs.

Yonah El
Yonah El

DEAR MR PRESIDENT. FUCK YOU VERY MUCH. KISS THE BLACKNESS OF MY ASS AND KNOW YOURSELF. SPEAK OUT IN TRUTH FOR THE PEOPLE FROM WHO'S LOINS YOU SPRANG. JUST ONCE SHOW THE BLACKNESS, SHOW THE MELANIN IN YOUR SKIN. JUST ONCE...

BlackRobbb
BlackRobbb

@JanetWilliams1 @Yonah El Maybe he could stop hunting for Islamist "boogie men" and start focusing on suffering on these shores. Maybe he could stop bending over for Jews, gays and Wall Street and start paying a little attention to the needs of Blacks, heterosexuals who live clean lives and Main Street. 

Why is your president doing so much for Jews and gays, but wagging his finger in admonishment at Blacks?

BlackRobbb
BlackRobbb

@dedav2222 You are nothing but a boot-licking toady, a trustee Negro. Your president is a sell-out and a joke and will be remembered as such. White neo-conservatives hate him, socially conscious Blacks hate him. He's detested on all sides. Only the feeble-minded still support this Uncle Tom.

dedav2222
dedav2222

@Yonah El Whoa, Whoa, you are being disrespectful and silly...stop. The president will address all issues at the proper time.

yehuel
yehuel

Again! Again My Black People! Again another Evil White devil kills a elder Black Man in his driveway after a low speed chase! A National Call for all Black People to Separate Totally from this Evil White Babylonian Empire! A Total Withdrawal! A National Unity of a Black Nation within America to govern ourselves!    Let's bring back the Black Panthers who back in the 60's patrolled Black communities protecting Black People- The Black Panther Security Force- Separate permanently from this White Evil People- Leave their government to form our own!   Support our businesses like was done in 40's,50's,60's is the Only Answer!   Accept the Pure Fact- They don't want us Niggers any More  ok!    Don't listen to False Black leaders selling that Dead American Lie and Can't we just get alone melody-   Unite Black People return to our True God Yahweh and His son Yahweh Ben Yahweh- Our Only Redeemer and Savior!   The Pharaoh of this day has turned up the Heat and made the Taskmasters-The Police, The FBI, the Criminal Court Systems-where the evil white criminals get just-us to kill and get paid for it!-The well paid-off politicians sign bills to take away your Nature rights under this so-called demon-democracy under evil white people rule-  Wake Up People! Read how the Black Children of Israel had to cry out for the Black God Yahweh to save them- Those are and were our Black Brothers and sisters under Pharaoh of that time- Now! we this Black mulatto Pharaoh Obama over us now-  Crying out to Obama won't help you now-  The best he will offer you is a Bud-light on the White House's Lawn- but you have to pay for the flight and cover the cost for the room at Budget Inn!     My people are suffering injustice all over America-  They are now- making you know of a surety that the Dredd-Scott Decision is Real-  Black was never-ever a part of America!  Their laws spells it out plainly- 3/5 human is still is in effect!  Return to the Black Yahweh and His Only Begotten Son Yahweh Ben Yahweh- Leave American Mind-sett- Come out her my people!  Baby Babylon will Fall Soon!

Johnw11
Johnw11

One of the things that irks me the most is when whites take it upon themselves to tell Blacks who their leader should be, or whom they should like. That is the height of paternal racist arrogance.

Blacks cannot eat, nor pay their bills, with the symbol of a "First Black President."

Blacks, like all other people, need jobs and justice in order to take care of their families.

The "First Black President" lost me not only in his "talking down to Blacks," saying the same things about African Americans as Bill O'Reilly, et al., but when Robert Gibbs (the white Alabamian) his 2008 presidential campaign manager -- and later press secretary -- said in the fall of 2008 in a TV interview, shortly after the president's victory over McCain:

" We won by using the following strategy. We went to every interest group in the country and learned what their issues were. Then we promised that if elected, we would address their issues. WE KNEW THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PROMISE THE BLACKS ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY WOULD JUST BE PROUD."

I said to myself, "proud my ass--I have to eat too."

A friend of mine was so delirious at the president's victory, that after losing his teaching job to a white rookie from "Teach for America," due to the president's educational policy of closing Black public schools and firing Black teachers, he would write on his bills where the amount due goes (instead of money) : "My president is Black."

They wrote him back and stated you have "30 days to pay this bill."

SteveBeinart
SteveBeinart

@Johnw11 "president's educational policy of closing Black public schools and firing Black teachers," the what?

Policy?   You mean like in Chicago?  The enrollments are down there, as they are in lots of places.  If there's less kids going to a school, eventually it's time to close that school.  Why keep it open with half the number of kids it used to have?  As a job program? 

MisterHix
MisterHix

@Johnw11

How were you paying your "bills" before the election of President Obama?

How old are you and how long have you been Black?

What did the last Black President of the US, do for you, that you have so much disdain for this one? 

Get my drift? ... Try to get a grip, and stop tripping on your ego. 

Ask yourself... Why is it without fail Blacks will trample over their own?

Try to put yourself in President Obama's place. How would you deal with all the opposition, and forces of The Powers That Be?  It took 50 years of struggle, some people gave their lives, just for you to be able to be free to express yourself. Don't blow on hate, and disrespect of your own Blackness.

TariqWilliams
TariqWilliams

That was an excellent reply post to someone who is apparently suffering from the mentally debilitating disease disease known as self hatred. A disease that causes so called "Black" people to be tricked or otherwise convinced by the white supremacist system to love it while atthe same time they engage in the most extremly incredible hatred of themselves and especially all other so called "Black" people. Again your reply post was right on the money and I for one am very greatful for your excellent reply post to that so called "Black" self hater and white supremacist system lover because now I don't have to invest my time in an attempt to put an alarm clock in the cemetery in an attempt to wake the dead.

Johnw11
Johnw11

@MisterHix @Johnw11  Sir, generally I don't respond to people asking questions that have I already answered, and/or questions that are totally unrelated to the discussion at hand.  And I do not intend for this to be a long back and forth. It will not be. I do not have the time.

My decision to respond to your above comment is not to legitimize your questions, which are grounded in paradoxes (and other irrational rationalizations), but to clear up a charge that you made about my so-called "disdain" for President Obama, simply because I have expressed my disagreement with his policies.

If you are in a pre-reasoning state of cognitive- discernment, wherein you consider disagreement to be the same as  disdain, then I have no business talking with you over the internet anyway.

Bottom line: I found your comment OFFENSIVE, and an out-of-touch, out-of-order, EMOTIONAL appeal to an INTELLECTUAL matter.

Your question of how was I "paying my bills before the election of President Obama," is the kind of question that I call paradoxical and irrational. Obviously, I was (like you and everyone else) paying my bills with money.

That is not a logical question within the context of a "policy" discussion. The issue is how has President Obama performed on the policy level of helping to ease the economic suffering of African Americans as a collective. For your information, economically, Blacks are in the worst shape in decades. And there is no honest economic data saying otherwise.

If you do not know this already, then there can only be two logical reasons for your not knowing, given its being so widely known and also discussed on this site,(1) you are not interested in knowing, and therefore have made no effort to seek out facts,(2) you deny these facts when exposed to them (denial of reality). Either way, you cannot be considered to care about the matter (the socio-economic plight o African Americans), choosing instead  to worship a singular personality; empathy not being your strong suit in this regard. 

I have stated specifically, many of my policy disagreements at length on this very page in my response to JanetWilliams1. There is not use to repeat them again. Suffice it to say that the only things being blocked of any significance are his attempts to cut Social Security and at one time some Judicial appointments. The Senate passed internal rules that stopped the blocking of the appointments to the federal judiciary, however, many Blacks in Congress and Civil rights legends like Rep. John Lewis and Rev. Joseph Lowery, expressed extreme disappointment at those the president chose to appoint: Right-Wing Conservatives who are known for defending the Confederate flag and opposing Civil Rights laws (Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965).

Regarding irrationality, I don't get your point about "what did the last Black president do?" It is  inconsistent with reality in an alarming way. For obvious reasons, I can not answer that question.

The other stuff you said about dragging another Black man down is a stereotypical bromide, and is irrelevant to the context of this discussion. Which, at the risk of redundancy, I've already stated is about policy, i.e., the right of African Americans to have their economic and other issues addressed the same as everyone else.

What kind of mind would see that as "blowing on hate" and disrespecting my "Blackness?" Certainly not a rational one. Your comment is totally off point. How am I disrespecting my "Blackness" when I'm advocating for "Blacks" to be included in the economic policies of this society?

In saying goodbye to you, I'll leave you with this: again,  all the other stuff you said about "opposition" this and that also have nothing to do with my position and are, in fact, mostly theater. My question is--what's being blocked relative to socio-economic policies to help Blacks with their ever increasing suffering? (Read my comment to Ms. Wiliams1).

I also do not need a lecture from you about the civil rights movement. I have ample knowledge of that movement acquired from my family, school, and personal study. And nowhere in the movement was there a goal to put anyone in a position of power so they could talk down to African Americans and CONSCIOUSLY exclude them from any benefit of their political investment. Even at a time when they need assistance the most, and have every right to expect and demand it. Just like all other groups, Africa Americans cannot survive in this world on pride alone. To elevate pride over a tangible policy is to pimp African Americans' "pride."  African Americans who accept it, are accepting to be pimped whether they know it or not.

Goodbye.



MisterHix
MisterHix

@Johnw11

John, Seriously with no pun intended… For being riddled with intentional, unintentional, or unbeknownst semantics, your epistle fizzled. Even your attempts to speak pejoratively lacks cohesion. I’m not your enemy, we’re in/on the same boat; and even though you’re still one of the many crabs still within the barrel (on the boat), your still my Brother. Sad is you (like so many others) perceive constructive criticism (especially mine) as “paradoxical and irrational”. 

You remind me so much of "The Spook Who Set By The Door” (I'll elaborate below), so reminiscent the stool-peigon Black, who naively unknowingly allows himself to be used, by Propagandizing Rightwing Racist White Politicians in photo ops. Who further as if innate repeatedly repeats his instilled mantra... “President Of Everyone Except Black People”. (Which you should have been more boisterous about, when it was true of the Bush administration, especially relative New Orleans.)

Your rejoinder belies the dilemma Blacks struggle with daily, and still you fail to see (can’t even comprehend for your own bloated semantic ego) that its “paradoxical and irrational”.  Redundancy eclipses the mind of enlightenment. 

Isn’t it Ironic! that... "The Paradox! of war is that you have to kill people in order to get people to stop killing each other.”?  

We cannot be of the mind, nor feel the need, that we (you,I, or whoever) need impress one another, with (what we think) impressive literary skill, to lend credence to or eclipses the message.  As we've witness here with the intentional combativeness, for mere argument sake, to rob logic of common sense, with asinine retorts of personal attack.


Now back to elaborating on the “The Spook Who Set By The Door”  (whose not to be confused with a “Uncle Tom, a Patsy, or a Turncoat”; but can be compared to “Chicken Little”).

Except for his Blackness and having been precariously seated outside the door to the room, he felt himself abreast and every bit equal, the White men congregated in it.  Despite the clamoring chatter being esoteric to his ears, he knew unequivocally he heard what he heard.  He could hardly contain himself, anxious for the sun to set, for only in the cover of darkness could every whisper his mind uttered, of what he heard, be heard. 

If you can’t comprehend the moral of the story, relative yourself… “I have no business talking with you over the internet anyway.” 

What serious rejoinder could I possibly offer when you make such ludicrous accusations? I implore you to Google “President Obama’s Accomplishments”… and Please do type it in just that way.

BTW, did you know that Barack Obama, is a scholar in Constitutional Law?

MisterHix
MisterHix

@Johnw11

John, Seriously with no pun intended… For being riddled with intentional, unintentional,  and or unbeknownst semantics, your epistle fizzled. Even your attempts to speak pejoratively lacks cohesion, and you think you’re talking “National Policy”? I’m not your enemy, we’re in/on the same boat; and even though you’re still one of the many crabs still within the barrel (on the boat), your still my Brother. Sad is you (like so many others) perceive constructive criticism, you don’t agree with, (especially mine) as “paradoxical and irrational”. 

You remind me so much of "The Spook Who Set By The Door” (I'll elaborate later), so reminiscent the stool-peigon Black, who naively unknowingly allows himself to be used, by Propagandizing Rightwing Racist White Politicians in photo ops. Who further as if innate repeatedly repeats his instilled mantra... “President Of Everyone Except Black People”. (Which you should have been more boisterous about, when it was true of the Bush administration, especially relative New Orleans.)

Your rejoinder belies the dilemma Black Folks struggle with daily, and still you fail to see (even comprehend for your own bloated semantic ego) that its “paradoxical and irrational”.  Redundancy eclipses the mind of enlightenment. 

Isn’t it Ironic! that... "The Paradox! of war is that you have to kill people in order to get people to stop killing each other.”?  

We cannot be of the mind, nor feel the need, that we (you,I, or whoever) need impress one another, with (what we think) impressive literary skill, to lend credence to or eclipse the message.  As we've witness here with the intentional combativeness, for mere argument sake, to rob logic of common sense, with asinine retorts of personal attack.


Now back to elaborating on the “The Spook Who Set By The Door”  (whose not to be confused with a “Uncle Tom, a Patsy, or a Turncoat”; but can be compared to “Chicken Little”).

Except for his Blackness and having been precariously seated outside the door to the room, he felt himself abreast and every bit equal, the White men congregated in it.  Despite the clamoring chatter being esoteric to his ears, he knew unequivocally he heard what he heard.  He could hardly contain himself, anxious for the sun to set, for only in the cover of darkness could every whisper of what he heard, be heard. 

If you can’t comprehend the moral of the story, relative yourself…  you “have no business talking over the internet anyway.” 

What serious rejoinder could I possibly offer when you make such ludicrous accusations? I implore you to Google “President Obama’s Accomplishments”… and Please do type it in just that way. Educate your on how our government should work, but doesn’t work accordingly, because of the hundreds of millions of Blacks who think like you; and worst don’t VOTE! or vote the way that should.

BTW, did you know that Barack Obama, is Black and a scholar in Constitutional Law?… Being that “The issue is how has President Obama performed on the policy level of helping to ease the economic suffering of African Americans collectively.”

Contrary to the facade you present here am I to assume, you’re under 40, your pants sag off yo ass, you’ve been incarcerated, you’re a deadbeat dad, a thug, former drug addict, or ignorant high school dropout, because of the way you've present yourself here; that the Statisticians are right in saying, if you’re Black its more likely than not, that you’re one or the other if not all of the above? Like you’ve assume President Obama, “President Of Everyone Except Black People”.

Relative to your “African Americans as a collective”… Listen to Smokey Robinson… 

 http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCYQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Db37FXUXClrI&ei=a70IVMmUJ4GPyASGtIGgCw&usg=AFQjCNHPppbz6u6KccWTTvuUxMSXot7y6g&bvm=bv.74649129,d.aWw


TariqWilliams
TariqWilliams

@Johnw11 @MisterHix  All of the problems you have with President Obama, and his policies may very well be legitimate however there is no way in the world you could convince any so called "Black" people in America that McCain or Romney would have been champions of so called "Black" people and what is important to them. The last two Presidential elections those three were the only choices we had and if President Obama never does one single thing that is beneficial to so called "Black" people he would still be one hundred percent better for so called "Black" people than McCain or Romney could ever imagine being.

BlackheywoodHeywood
BlackheywoodHeywood

@Johnw11 @TariqWilliams @MisterHix


[The only difference between African American reality regarding Romney-McCain-Obama, is that if either of those two had won there is no way Blacks would tolerate the level of socio-economic suffering that SOME Blacks tolerate now in the belief that it is right not to ask the Black president for help after standing in lines for hours to vote for him. Which is insane, and not only inconsistent with the goals of the Civil Rights Movement, but every movement Blacks have waged against white supremacy for justice since first being in this country.]


Amen.Thank you.

Johnw11
Johnw11

@TariqWilliams @Johnw11 @MisterHix 

TariqWilliams, if you are willing to have an informed discussion, I will dialogue with you until I'm convinced nothing new can be added to the discussion. But the moment you start talking like that obviously disturbed person that you agreed with above, I'm done discussing.

So let's get started  (in reviewing the major points you raised):

1. I have never said, nor thought, that Romney or McCain "would have been champions" of African Americans. Anyone pushing the idea that they would have been is either crazy or on their payroll.

But that is not the point. This is ---African Americans DID NOT vote for them in critical mass. African Americans DID vote for President Obama in critical mass. And he owes us more than a scolding (about our shortcomings) in order to please, or impress, racists who did not vote for him in critical mass.

2. In the last two presidential elections, those were not the only two choices. There were numerous independent candidates running. But in terms of Wall-Street (and the media it controls) you are correct -- those were the only choices.

But we are talking about "politics," not "Dancing with the Stars," "American Idol," or whatever.

That means that we must learn to make demands to have our needs met whenever we invest our political capital (votes) for any candidate, regardless of race or party of the hustler seeking our votes.

3. When we consider his policies, however, there is little, if any, difference between McCain, Romney, and President Obama. They all work for white supremacy.

During the Obama-Romney debates (2012), they agreed more than they disagreed. (If you were paying attention).

One of the first things President Obama did when taking office in January, 2009, was to push for the implementation of Romney Care (now known as Obama Care), a Wall-Street enrichment scheme. Romney, in order to distinguish himself from President Obama, claimed that Obama Care was not Romney Care. But President Obama correctly said that it was the same.

I do not have time in this response to get into how this Wall-Street scam has hurt African Americans by mandating them by force of law to buy what is essentially crap, which raises their premium costs, as well as their deductibles. (That's why you don't hear many Blacks boasting about it like you did before it was implemented).

In terms of poor people, Romney Care / Obama Care has turned Medicaid over to private insurance companies. As a result, poor Medicaid recipients are (unlike before) being denied services prescribed by their physicians and must now pay a co-pay. Money which they obviously don't have.

If you would like to discuss it further, do your research (if you haven't already) and we can talk about it.

Finally, in terms of McCain, I remember during the 2008 presidential debates when then-candidate Obama accused McCain of voting for "Bush's policies." McCain responded: "You have some nerve. You have voted for Bush's policies far, far, more than I have." (I heard that because I was paying attention.)

President Obama has implemented (or tried to implement) all of the right-wing GOP policies that he could (including Romney Care). In fact, all his policies have been right-wing GOP (including publicly insulting Blacks).

Those are Facts.

He has even adopted the neocon foreign policies of McCain and others. Policies that many experts say may soon lead to nuclear war with Russia.

The only difference between African American reality regarding Romney-McCain-Obama, is that if either of those two had won there is no way Blacks would tolerate the level of socio-economic suffering that SOME Blacks tolerate now in the belief that it is right not to ask the Black president for help after standing in lines for hours to vote for him. Which is insane, and not only inconsistent with the goals of the Civil Rights Movement, but every movement Blacks have waged against white supremacy for justice since first being in this country.

Knowing how the white supremacist's mind works, I bet since 2009 they have been laughing at Blacks and bragging among themselves: "Gee, Pete. If we'd known that all we had to do to trick the Blacks into SUPPORTING our abuse and destruction of them, is put one of them in front of it, we would have given them a Black president a long time ago."

"Yes, Chad, how are they living. I hear it's worse than ever. Are they still supporting us (him)?"

"Yes, they are. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!"


BlackheywoodHeywood
BlackheywoodHeywood

@Johnw11 @MisterHix


[And nowhere in the movement was there a goal to put anyone in a position of power so they could talk down to African Americans and CONSCIOUSLY exclude them from any benefit of their political investment. Even at a time when they need assistance the most, and have every right to expect and demand it. Just like all other groups,]


The absolute truth.  Thank you

BlackRobbb
BlackRobbb

@TariqWilliams @MisterHix By voting for the "lesser of two evils", you are basically devaluing the very vote some of our people forfeited their lives for. But is Obama really a lesser evil than Romney or McCain? Facts and data suggest not. Since taking office in early 2009, African-American labor force participation has decreased, not increased. 


http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/johnransom/2014/01/14/obama-the-mancaused-disaster-for-black-men-in-america-n1778564/page/full

Obama has spent considerable political capital on homosexuals, anti-gun lobbyists and environmentalists, but has spent almost none on African-Americans. Hence, I find it hard to see how Romney or McCain could have possibly been appreciably worse than Obama. I just don't see it. 


The Myth of Obama was just that -- a myth. The truth of the man is that he's in office because he agreed to read from the Money Masters' script, a script that includes collusion to keep African-Americans subservient and dependent and easily-incarcerated. 


If that's your idea of "good" for the black community, I'd hate to see what the "bad" would entail. 

BlackheywoodHeywood
BlackheywoodHeywood

@BlackRobbb @TariqWilliams @MisterHix


[The truth of the man is that he's in office because he agreed to read from the Money Masters' script, a script that includes collusion to keep African-Americans subservient and dependent and easily-incarcerated. ]


That appears to be the case, regrettably 

BlackRobbb
BlackRobbb

@BlackheywoodHeywood @BlackRobbb @TariqWilliams @MisterHix The fact of the matter is that the money masters don't give a damn if the president is black, white, orange or purple. Neo-conservative or liberal. The only thing that matters to them is whether they control that person's actions once they're installed.

Race doesn't matter like that to people with big $$$ and assets because they have the money to insulate themselves from those and that which they find distasteful. Think about that for a moment.

BlackRobbb
BlackRobbb

@BlackheywoodHeywood Race matters on our level, but on that big $$$ level, I don't think people are considering the race of who they will exploit. Just that there be someone to exploit. If there were no black people to incarcerate and exploit, white people would incarcerate and exploit their own. What do you think the European savages were doing over there in Europe before they "discovered" Africa?

BradyBibbs
BradyBibbs

@Johnw11 @MisterHix if you spent as much time writing this bs and go vote maybe things will change and read the news more often.  everything ob has tried was block or filibuster by the repulicans.

Johnw11
Johnw11

@BradyBibbs @Johnw11 @MisterHix  Sir, if you spent as much time thinking and paying attention to the real world as you do writing uninformed nonsense you would know that Black people out voted whites in 2008 and 2012.

Yet, despite this fact, Blacks have suffered greater economically ( and in case of those like you, mentally as well) than any time in history.

Please do not bore me with child-like analysis about "everything ob has tried has been block or filibuster by republicans."

That nonsense has already been discredited completely with evidence proving its falsity beyond the possibility of contradiction.

I am not going to go through it again.

You sound like someone hypnotized.

But, then again....

By the way, how do you know whether or not I vote?

Please don't make assumptions about things you know nothing about.

And, I do not intend to waste time responding to you.

I know what is happening with you.

With all due respect.

Goodbye.

BlackRobbb
BlackRobbb

@Johnw11 @BradyBibbs @MisterHix What is happening with him and people who think like him is that they're still sipping on the same Kool Aid. It's too painful for them to admit that Obama sold them a bogus bill of goods not once, but twice! 

"Fool them once..."

JanetWilliams1
JanetWilliams1

@BradyBibbs @Johnw11 @MisterHix 
What do you want?  What?  DO you want special black-only govt jobs?  What?

Did you speak up when BO invites millions of broke, uneducated people to compete with black Americans for jobs?
You okay with that?
And to soak up our tax money in services?  Black Americans pay taxes too, you know.  You okay with tens of millions of illegals using up our tax dollars?  Yes or no?

CarolParks
CarolParks

@BradyBibbs,

You can't get thru a brick wall...even with FACT'S. The GOP has never hid what they were doing, as they had a meeting the very same day that President Obama was taking his oath back for the first time in 2009.

All the Bills for Jobs, Veterans Benefits, extension of unemployment ALL WERE STOPPED BY CONGRESS. Anyone denying that, is denying Fact's. You can have an opinion, but you cannot change fact's.

So to argue with someone like that, is futile as they are buried in ignorance.